Track your comments!
[x]


When you register, comments on your articles and replies to your comments appear here. Register Now!

Sign in to your account
[x]

Not a Scientific Blogging member yet?

Register Now for a Free Scientificblogging.com Account

  • Customize your profile with pictures, banner, a blogroll and more.
  • Leave comments on articles, add other members to your friend lists, chat with people on the site.
  • Write blog posts that can be seen by hundreds of thousands of readers.

It's free and it only takes a minute!

Already a Scientific Blogging member?

Sign In Now

Fake Banner
By Dave Deamer | November 1st 2009 10:04 PM | 19 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
.

More Stars, Planets, Life articles

All

About Dave Deamer

My research focuses on a variety of topics related to membrane biophysics, including the origin of cell membranes and the use of transmembrane nanopores to analyze nucleic acids. Over the past 25... Full Bio

John Evans, a mathematician friend of mine in Cambridge England, came up with a formula that specifically allows one to estimate the relative complexity of nervous systems in the animal kingdom, from C. elegans to the human brain. It takes into account not just the number of neurons in the brain, but also the number of synaptic connections that link neurons to one another, and in a second version, the encephalization quotient.

In one sense, the formula is simplistic, yet to my knowledge it is the first attempt at such a calculation, so it will be interesting to see if it actually works.



The underlying supposition to be tested is that the calculated neurocomplexity is correlated with something that we will define loosely as animal intelligence, basically the ability to learn from experience and then to use the learned information to solve a problem. What follows is a list of familiar animals, and I challenge readers to put them in order from most intelligent to least intelligent. There is no “right” answer, of course, only intuition based on your experience with the animals in question. I don’t want to sort through hundreds of responses, so I will just take the first ten replies that seem to be serious attempts, and in a future column I will reveal a second list calculated according to the Evans equation.

If you can possibly manage to do so, jot down your list before looking at other readers’ lists, and then post it.


This exercise will serve to introduce a significant question: Is there a minimal level of neurocomplexity that must be present for self-awareness and consciousness to arise?


Here are the animals, listed in alphabetical order as a way to randomize them:


Cat


Chimpanzee


Dog


Dolphin (bottlenose)


Elephant (African)


Gorilla


Horse


Human


Mouse


Opposum


Rat



Comments

Human
Chimpanzee
Gorilla
Dolphin (bottlenose)
Elephant (African)
Horse
Dog
Cat
Opposum
Rat
Mouse

adaptivecomplexity's picture
I'd suggest about the same list, except maybe put rat above oppossum.

An interesting exercise, but it stands on a required foundation: how do we define consciousness, and how is neurocomplexity related? I notice that the list is comprised of organisms in the animal kingdom only. Are we barring other kingdoms like plants, or even archaea in our definition? There are a multitude of philosophical questions that we immediately face.

Typically, science answers the "how" through experiment and then theorizes about the "why." I think here we should alter our approach.

I definitely want to see where this goes. I can't include "dog" on the list, though, because it's too broad a category. Within the species, intelligence varies from Pomeranian through to border collie, and I just can't lump those together.

Mouse
Rat
Opposum
Cat
Horse
Elephant (African)
Gorilla
Dolphin (bottlenose)
Chimpanzee
Human

1. Human
2. Chimpanzee
3. Gorilla
4. Elephant
5. Dolphin
6. Horse
7. Cat
8. Rat/Mouse (tie)
10. Opossum

If you included birds, I would rank parrots right up there with chimps and humans, and dogs just under parrots.

Ah, whoops! Looks like I ordered that list backwards. No, I do not subscribe to the hypothesis that mice are a superintelligent alien species who built this planet as the test group for an enormous experiment.

Hank's picture
Hey, if they can make a movie called "2012" with a serious face I don't see why it can't have been caused by unhappy mice.  Douglas Adams should have written a book using that as the backdrop!

Gerhard Adam's picture
I would agree with the previous lists regarding consciousness, but self-awareness must be present in every living thing since it must be capable of determining "what kind" of creature it is.  This is necessary so that simple tasks like knowing what to eat or reproduce with can be identified.  This makes no sense unless a creature is minimally "self-aware".

Similarly, every manifestation of cooperation requires a sense of "self-awareness".  It seems that the very nature of life requires it.

Stellare's picture
My list:

Humans
Dolphin
Chimpanzee
Gorilla
Elephant
Cat
Dog
Horse
Rat
Mouse
Opposum (I have no knowledge of this animals - maybe tells more about my intelligence than the animals...hehe)


What we learn in school is more like this:

Humans
Chimpanzee
Gorilla
Dolphin
Elephant
Horse
Dog
Cat
(Opposum - based on guessed size)
Rat
Mouse

I think 'marine intelligence' is underrated since we are very different from them. The monkeys looks more like us and we assume they are just slightly less intelligent than us - or something like that. And then there is the size element. :-) The first list is what I submit as it is sort of an updated intuition.

Human
Dolphin
Chimp
Gorilla
Elephant
Dog
Horse
Cat
Rat
Mouse
Possum

I must admit, my zoologist wife gave her ideas to this list

human
chimp
dolphin
gorilla
horse
elephant
cat
dog
opossum
rat
mouse

Dave Deamer's picture
Thank you everyone who has responded so far. Just a few more responses will get us up to ten lists, my arbitrary cutoff number.
A couple of comments -- these mammalian species were chosen because there are published estimates for the number of cortical neurons in their brains and encephalization quotients. This is why I did not include parrots, for instance. 

And responding to G. Marks, granted that it is not a simple matter to say what we mean by intelligence, consciousness and self-awareness in animals (or humans, for that matter) yet we still have those words in our language and can set up some simple experiments that can test problem solving ability. I will give examples in my next column.


Gerhard Adam's picture
Human
Dolphin
Gorilla
Chimpanzee
Horse
Elephant
Dog
Cat
Rat
Opposum
Mouse

Human
Chimpanzee
Gorilla
Dolphin
Elephant
Horse
Dog
Cat
Rat
Opposum
Mouse

Here's my list. Placing of the opossum is a pure guess; i have no idea of what it does and what it's abilities are.

human
chimp
gorilla
dolphin
elephant
dog
rat
cat
horse
opossum
mouse

Dave Deamer's picture
Thank you everyone. We now have ten lists. i will get to work sorting them out and seeing how well the Evans formula agrees with your intuitive ordering of mammalian intelligence. This will take a couple of days.

Steve Davis's picture
I think, like Gerhard, that the intelligence of animals is greatly underestimated. Most animals can look at a situation and calculate risk. That is an exceedingly complex thought process.

Becky Jungbauer's picture
I'm sorry I came to this too late to submit my own list. I'm surprised that most lists had dog above cat. I agree with F.A.R. that as a breed it's hard to lump them all together, and I'd include cats in that as well. I think overall they'd be fairly equivalent. I'd also put dolphin second after humans, and horses down below dogs/cats.

Wish I hadn't missed it but here is my list anyway.
Human
Dolphin
Chimp
Cat
Dog
Mouse
Rat
Opossum
Elephant
Horse

I left the two grazers at the bottom as I vaguely remember reading something about grazers being less intelligent.

Add a comment

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <sup> <sub> <a> <em> <strong> <center> <cite> <code> <TH><ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <img> <br> <p> <blockquote> <strike> <object> <param> <embed> <del> <pre> <b> <i> <table> <tbody> <div> <tr> <td> <h1> <h2> <h3> <h4> <h5> <h6> <hr> <iframe>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
CAPTCHA
If you register, you will never be bothered to prove you are human again. And you get a real editor toolbar to use instead of this HTML thing that wards off spam bots.