Dr. James E. Hansen, head of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York and an adviser to Al Gore’s film, “An Inconvenient Truth,” is quoted and referred to in the New York Times article "The Civil Heretic - Freeman Dyson - Profile" - by Nicholas Dawidoff, March 29, 2009, New York Times, page MM32 and in the New York Times Magazine, March 25, 2009.
Dr. Hansen sent his response to the article to those who have subscribed to his e-mail commentaries the day before its publication in the Sunday New York Times. He has given me permission to convey his clarification in its entirety:
New York Times Magazine
Tomorrow’s NY Times Magazine article (The Civil Heretic) on Freeman Dyson includes an unfortunate quote from me that may appear to be disparaging and ad hominem (something about bigger fish to fry). It was a quick response to a reporter* who had been doggedly pursuing me for an interview that I did not want to give. I accept responsibility for the sloppy wording and I will apologize to Freeman, who deserves much respect.
You might guess (correctly) that I was referring to the fact that contrarians are not the real problem – it is the vested interests who take advantage of the existence of contrarians.
There is nothing wrong with having contrarian views, even from those who have little relevant expertise – indeed, good science continually questions assumptions and conclusions. But the government needs to get its advice from the most authoritative sources, not from magazine articles. In the United States the most authoritative source of information would be the National Academy of Sciences.
The fact that the current administration in the United States has not asked for such advice, when combined with continued emanations about “cap and trade,” should be a source of great concern. What I learned in visiting other countries is that most governments do not want to hear from their equivalent scientific bodies, probably because they fear the advice will be “stop building coal plants now!” These governments are all guilty of greenwash, pretending that they are dealing with the climate problem via “goals” and “caps”, while they continue to build coal plants and even investigate unconventional fossil fuels and coal-to-liquids.
I will send out something (“Worshiping the Temple of Doom”) on cap-and-trade soon.It is incredible how governments resist the obvious (maybe not so incredible when lobbying budgets are examined, along with Washington’s revolving doors). This is not rocket science. If we want to move toward energy independence and solve the climate problem, we need to stop subsidizing fossil fuels with the public’s money and instead place a price on carbon emissions.
My suggestion is Carbon Fee and 100% Dividend, with a meaningful starting price (on oil, gas and coal at the mine or port of entry) equivalent to $1/gallon gasoline ($115/ton CO2). Based on 2007 fuel use, this would generate $670B/year – returned 100% to the public (monthly electronic deposit in bank accounts or debit cards), the dividend would be $3000 per adult legal resident, $9000/year per family with two or more children. This is large enough to affect consumer product and life style choices, investments and innovations. Of course all the other things (rules re vehicle, appliance and building efficiencies, smart electric grid, utility profit motives, etc.) are needed, but a rising carbon price is needed to make them work and move us most efficiently to the cleaner world beyond fossil fuels.
* The reporter left the impression that my conclusions are based mainly on climate models. I always try to make clear that our conclusions are based on #1 Earth’s history, how it responded to forcings in the past, #2 observations of what is happening now, #3 models. Here is the actual note that I sent to the reporter after hanging up on him:
"I looked up Freeman Dyson on Wikipedia, which describes his views on "global warming" as below. If that is an accurate description of what he is saying now, it is actually quite reasonable (I had heard that he is just another contrarian). However, this also indicates that he is under the mistaken impression that concern about global warming is based on climate models, which in reality play little role in our understanding -- our understanding is based mainly on how the Earth responded to changes of boundary conditions in the past and on how it is responding to on-going changes."
If this Wikipedia information is an accurate description of his position, then the only thing that I would like to say about him is that he should be careful not to offer public opinions about global warming unless he is willing to first take a serious look at the science. His philosophy of science is spot-on, the open-mindedness, consistent with that of Feynman and the other greats, but if he is going to wander into something with major consequences for humanity and other life on the planet, then he should first do his homework -- which he obviously has not done on global warming. My concern is that the public may assume that he has -- and, because of his other accomplishments, give his opinion more weight than it deserves."
Jim Hansen
The quote in the New York Times:
"Reached by telephone, Hansen sounds annoyed as he says, 'There are bigger fish to fry than Freeman Dyson,' who 'doesn’t know what he’s talking about.' In an e-mail message, he adds that his own concern about global warming is not based only on models, and that while he respects the 'open-mindedness' of Dyson, 'if he is going to wander into something with major consequences for humanity and other life on the planet, then he should first do his homework — which he obviously has not done on global warming.'
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Seventh session of the AWG-KP and fifth session of the AWG-LCA, http://unfccc.int/2860.php
29 March-08 April 2009
Bonn, Germany
The Seventh session of the AWG-KP and fifth session of the AWG-LCA are taking place from Sunday 29 March to Wednesday 8 April 2009 in Maritim, Bonn.
"Obama team debuts at UN climate talks" http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jpokgFJzTVqBUWoSV4Qm3b...
By ARTHUR MAX – 12 hours ago
These are just the beginning of a series of global talks and conferences scheduled through December.
Diana (not verified) | 03/29/09 | 19:45 PM
I guess getting caught fudging the numbers TWICE does'nt cast suspicion
in your "scientific" overheated world. That and the fact that Al Gore is perhaps
the biggest hypocrite when it comes to practicing what he preaches-
but oh, wait! Unlimited energy for me, not for thee, serf! Typical Liberals-
do as I say, not as I do.
Guess what? Your victims are catching on. They're getting hip to the scam.
Hopefully soon, you grant-grabbers will have have to get real jobs-
say, working for an oil company.
p.s.- are '"scientists" wearing uniforms yet?
button (not verified) | 03/30/09 | 04:38 AM
Grant grabbers? In all my 60+ years I have never had a research grant. I am not finded by any source. I am in nobody's pocket. I am strongly ethical. I also know good science when I see it, and I know deniers when I see their rants against science and scientists.
Every single day new evidence is published showing that we are, beyond any room for doubt, causing severe and lasting harm to our environment. We are supposed to be living in an age of reason, but I often wonder about that.
button: learn some science and then check the facts at e.g. NOAA, IPCC and let's all stop living in The Age of Stupid.
Every single day new evidence is published showing that we are, beyond any room for doubt, causing severe and lasting harm to our environment. We are supposed to be living in an age of reason, but I often wonder about that.
button: learn some science and then check the facts at e.g. NOAA, IPCC and let's all stop living in The Age of Stupid.
Patrick Lockerby | 03/30/09 | 06:20 AM
Diana deRegnier | 03/30/09 | 11:52 AM
Bente Lilja Bye | 03/30/09 | 08:16 AM
Hank Campbell | 03/30/09 | 07:29 AM
Diana deRegnier | 03/30/09 | 11:28 AM
“We, the undersigned scientists, maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated. Surface temperature changes over the past century have been episodic and modest and there has been no net global warming for over a decade now.1,2 After controlling for population growth and property values, there has been no increase in damages from severe weather-related events.3 The computer models forecasting rapid temperature change abjectly fail to explain recent climate behavior.4 Mr. President, your characterization of the scientific facts regarding climate change and the degree of certainty informing the scientific debate is simply incorrect.”
Accommodation promises to be much less expensive than trying to control climate. CO2 was much higher in prehistoric time, causing lush vegetation. Increasing CO2 will benefit feeding the world's rapidly growing population.
The critical issue facing us in the near future is to provide alternative fuels fast enough to accommodate 10%/year reduction in available oil EXPORTs, caused by Peak Oil combined with rapid domestic growth in oil exporting countries.
David L. Hagen (not verified) | 03/31/09 | 21:39 PM
This is not my area of expertise but it is only logical that the things we have been doing to this planet are harming her. From cutting down rainforests to our daily practices of driving vehicles that pollute the air to the unconcionable waste we "civilized" nations should be ashamed and take action to reverse the damage.
In the 70's, my daughter came in from playing outside and said, "Mommy my chest hurts." It was a warm summer day in Orange County, California. From then on I heeded the advisory warnings to not let the children play on high pollution days.
You cannot tell me that these decades later with asthma, viruses, bacteria, immune system disease, cancer and most other illnesses rampant; with all the whacky and disastrous weather; with fish and birds and bees and frogs and hundreds of species of wildlife dying or deformed that nothing we are doing is hurting anything. Only denial and ego-centricity could make someone so bold as to say this is just a normal phase the planet is going through.
~ Diana deRegnier
In the 70's, my daughter came in from playing outside and said, "Mommy my chest hurts." It was a warm summer day in Orange County, California. From then on I heeded the advisory warnings to not let the children play on high pollution days.
You cannot tell me that these decades later with asthma, viruses, bacteria, immune system disease, cancer and most other illnesses rampant; with all the whacky and disastrous weather; with fish and birds and bees and frogs and hundreds of species of wildlife dying or deformed that nothing we are doing is hurting anything. Only denial and ego-centricity could make someone so bold as to say this is just a normal phase the planet is going through.
~ Diana deRegnier
Diana deRegnier | 03/31/09 | 22:08 PM
David: The open letter which you quote in its entirety above contains only vague generalisations.
It cites 4 papers, two from 2005, one from 2007 and one from 2008.
Every day new research is being conducted, new papers published - the papers cited, especially having gone through peer review before publication are already out of date.
Swanson, K.L., and A. A. Tsonis January 26, 2009 - draft. - my emphasis.
The above-quoted passage is the strongest argument in the armoury of the letter's authors.
The Cato Institute is a political organisation with a free trade agenda.
There is an obvious conflict of interest between a political agenda for free trade and the essentials of controlling such free trade in the interest of saving our children, and their children from the results of our profligacy.
I conclude that the undated letter - a response to a speech by then president-elect Barack Obama November 19 2008 - is intellectually dishonest.
I challenge the Cato Institute to find any such intellectual dishonesty in my letter.
It cites 4 papers, two from 2005, one from 2007 and one from 2008.
- Swanson, K.L., and A. A. Tsonis. Geophysical Research Letters, in press: DOI:10.1029/2008GL037022.
- Brohan, P., et al. Journal of Geophysical Research, 2006: DOI: 10.1029/2005JD006548. Updates at http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature.
- Pielke, R. A. Jr., et al. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 2005: DOI: 10.1175/BAMS-86-10-1481.
- Douglass, D. H., et al. International Journal of Climatology, 2007: DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651.
Every day new research is being conducted, new papers published - the papers cited, especially having gone through peer review before publication are already out of date.
when the major modes of Northern Hemisphere climate variability are synchronized, or resonate, and the coupling between those modes simultaneously increases, the climate system appears to be thrown into a new state, marked by a break in the global mean temperature trend and in the character of El Ni˜no/Southern Oscillation variability. Here, a new and improved means to quantify the coupling between climate modes confirms that another synchronization of these modes, followed by an increase in coupling occurred in 2001/02. This suggests that a break in the global mean temperature trend from the consistent warming over the 1976/77–2001/02 period may have occurred ...
Swanson, K.L., and A. A. Tsonis January 26, 2009 - draft. - my emphasis.
The above-quoted passage is the strongest argument in the armoury of the letter's authors.
The Cato Institute is a political organisation with a free trade agenda.
There is an obvious conflict of interest between a political agenda for free trade and the essentials of controlling such free trade in the interest of saving our children, and their children from the results of our profligacy.
I conclude that the undated letter - a response to a speech by then president-elect Barack Obama November 19 2008 - is intellectually dishonest.
I challenge the Cato Institute to find any such intellectual dishonesty in my letter.
Patrick Lockerby | 03/31/09 | 23:04 PM












I wholeheartedly agree. But this is a global problem that requires a global solution. We cannot continue to be so profligate with energy - much less can we afford to increase our consumption -the prospects for humanity are horrific in their scale and impact.
Greenpeace.