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By Hank Campbell | June 2nd 2009 09:42 PM | 27 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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A wise man once said Darwin had the greatest idea anyone ever had. Others may prefer Newton or Archimedes.

Probably no one ever said a website was the greatest idea anyone ever had, but a website... Full Bio

Quick, who was the feared hitter that legendary baseball numbers guru Bill James says lost more career home runs due to playing in his home park than any player in history?   

If you guessed Joe DiMaggio then you, like me, regard him as the greatest player of all time(1); he was Willie Mays, except without the loose cap and able to read hitters so perfectly he rarely had to fly all over the field.   Yankee Stadium, "The House That Ruth Built" had a short right field fence, to benefit its archetype left handed hitter, and a cavernous left field, 457 feet at left center(2).  As we discussed in The Science Of Baseball: What Is The Farthest Home Run (And Did Mickey Mantle Hit It)? a 500 foot home run is a true rarity and the longest home run in Yankee Stadium this year has been 477 feet.  So Joe D. had some disadvantages arriving after Ruth.   

DiMaggio had 8 more strike outs than home runs so you can imagine in a field with more normal dimensions - and not departing for World War II - he would have had even more spectacular career home run results, along with that 56 game hitting streak. 

But neither Ruth nor Joe D. ever saw anything like the launching pad the Yankees play in today.   It's either a miracle of engineering or the biggest physics mistake since the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.


Tacoma Narrows.  Before Yankee Stadium, this was the best example of what happens when you don't properly account for the physics of fluid flow.

Playing in their swanky new billion-dollar-plus stadium, there have been 3.78 home runs per game there this season .  That's 87 home runs in 23 games,  almost a full home run per game over the distant number two park.   Consider that in 2008 the San Francisco Giants had 94 home runs throughout the entire 2008 82 game season and at this time last year, in the old Yankee Stadium (cost: $1.5 billion or so cheaper) there were only 46 taters by now.(3)

What explains it?  Plain old physics of baseball.   And it's not even a New York summer yet.   As we discussed earlier, a hot day makes the ball travel even farther and we've already been treated to a Nick Swisher home run after he got jammed in on the hands and a broken bat home run by Mark Teixeira.   

What accounts for such cheap homers?  A combination of a predictable westerly wind and some fairly bad design that ignored it.  Dennis Torok, wind engineer for Newmerical Technologies, told USA Today reporter Joan Murphy that the current roof design creates a 'jet stream' where the wind current swoops down onto the field and then rises again when exiting.   Bernoulli would be so proud.  But that's bad for baseball because records are cherished and we want to believe that it , and its records, are consistent.(4)

Why the hubbub?   Because the controversy has become so ridiculous to purists that NY state assemblyman Richard Brodsky told USA Today reporter Mel Antonen: "If the Yankees want to build a bad stadium with their own money, that's their business.   But if it is done with public money, then that's a different issue. There could come a time when we have to ask, 'Was the taxpayers' money spent well?' And that would be a perfectly legitimate question."

Well, it's not legitimate.  It's a $1.5 billion stadium the taxpayers helped buy for the most valuable sports franchise in the world.   Complaining about too many home runs seems a little silly.

But baseball people like their records.    We all know what Roger Maris got for beating Babe Ruth's home run record but taking an extra 8 games to do it - okay, nothing, that business about an asterisk next to the record never happened but people think it did.  

Here's a wind rose showing the directional probability of wind in New York, courtesy of Dennis Torok (graphic by Bob Laird and Karl Gelles - USA Today):

yankee stadium wind rose

13.5% of the time the wind is coming straight from the west.   The even better news;  the direction shifts in the summer so that percentage will come from the south, meaning more home runs out of left field too.   That means for right-handed hitter Alex Rodriguez, already the youngest player to reach 500 home runs, the party is just getting started.   Not only can he reach 800 home runs for his career, an exceptionally hot NY summer and no injuries could have him hitting 90 in a single season.

Will that happen?   Not likely.   Baseball is too important to New York.  If a player in New York is going to beat Babe Ruth's record, it won't be in a rigged stadium - even though Babe Ruth's stadium was.  So they'll add some sort of structure that will properly deflect the wind in the offseason, but not before we see a lot more broken-bat moon shots that get ridiculed on ESPN.

NOTES:

(1) Tough call, of course.   Babe Ruth was also a phenomenal pitcher (94-46 with a 2.28 ERA lifetime), which adds to his claim as the greatest.  His sale by the Boston Red Sox led to their 20th century" curse of the Bambino", which is a nice bonus.  In addition, when he broke Roger Connor’s career home run record of 138, it was certainly impressive, but he then proceeded to break that record 575 more times.  So I don't say Joe DiMaggio without having thought it over.

(2) Ted Williams had the opposite problem with the Big Green Monster in left, and still hit 521 home runs while missing 5 years of his career during two wars.   Imagine if he and Joe DiMaggio had been on opposite teams?  'The Splendid Splinter' was not just a baseball legend.  He is also a member of the  IGFA Fishing Hall of Fame.  

(3) Says the Elias Sports Bureau.  I am not double checking their numbers.

(4) On the day in June of 1876 when General George Custer made his dumbest, and last, mistake at Little Big Horn in Montana, the Chicago White Stockings played the Cincinnati Red Stockings; both teams wore knickers and will do so again this month.  

BONUS NOTE:   Read John Updike's classic piece, "Hub Fans Bid Kid Adieu", considered the greatest piece of (American) sports writing and is about the last at-bat of Ted Williams - a home run, of course.

Comments

Legitimate question and the taxpayers. It depends on whether the taxpayers have any "equity" in the stadium. If a bad design handicaps the Yankees' franchise, and if money has to be paid back, it would be worth asking about. (Unlikely, but I'm making a point.) Also, if there is any prospect of the Yankees coming back to the public for funds to undo their mistake, it's also legitimate.

..I'm guessing of course but I suspect that the new Yankee Stadium was designed with the fact that nearly all the boys are off the juice and could use the "wind assisted" flight of a reduced power swing. What about "Rockies Stadium"??...ball flies out of there pretty good. I never took you as a baseball fan Hank, what pleasant surprise.

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Indeed, Coors Field  has the record for most home runs, due to the high altitude, but they started keeping the balls in humidors to deaden them(*) and they have dropped every year since.    It's fun for some fans but demoralizing for home town pitchers to have things flying out.

At current pace, the new Yankee stadium will even surpass the Coors Field record, which gives people an idea something is really wrong, since at a mile up balls travel almost 10% farther.

(*) Humidity in the air is good for distance, though probably negligible at sea level, but humid baseballs are bad for distance.

...come on Hank....you know we're just trying to keep it fair. Besides...the back drop @ Coor's Field is superior to what the Yank's have. Glad you returned to the old picture...back in the recliner where you belong. ;-)

Becky Jungbauer's picture
Ahh, the serious recliner picture. A dash of Bond, a sprinkle of Dean, a fistful of cheetos.

...dang Becky...you must have a better monitor than I have, I just thought he needed a shave.

Becky Jungbauer's picture
:) I have one those enormous movie-screen Macs, the 24-incher. She's a beaut. Hank needed some work at that magnification, so I pasted a picture of Ewan McGregor over his avatar and that did the trick.

...hey...you're not sitting in a recliner as well are you? So you think that Hank looks a little like "Jimmy Dean"? Interesting...

Hank's picture
I come back from seeing 'Angels&Demons' (surprisingly good, though maybe because I expected to dislike it) and was all excited a baseball article got comments and instead they're about ... Cheetos.

Becky Jungbauer's picture
I refrain from baseball commentary because I've fallen far behind in my current player knowledge. Growing up I lived and breathed baseball (especially the Twins), waving my homer hankie with the best of 'em during the '87 and '91 world series. We had baseball card albums, played stratomatic baseball, went regularly to games (season tickets 4 rows behind home plate!) - my homer hankie is even signed by Norm Green, who sat next to us (this is before he moved the Stars to Dallas, obviously). But after Kirby and Hrbek retired and Knoblauch sold out to go to the Yankees, the Twins lost their magic and I drifted toward hockey. Having lived in two places in the past several years where there isn't a huge baseball following (Nashville, no team, and D.C., which for all intents and purposes may as well not have one), I haven't kept up. With the Phillies being world champs, though, I may find my way back. And at least I didn't say you looked like Jimmy Dean.

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And at least I didn't say you looked like Jimmy Dean.

He makes a pretty good sausage.   And sang a pretty good song.  My brother uses "Big Bad John" as his ringtone.

You left out Rod Carew and Harmon Killebrew.    Carew stole home 7 times - in one season.   And Killebrew was a heck of a hitter.    I'd have to google to know his age when I met him but he had wrists like a vise even then.

logicman's picture
My brother uses "Big Bad John" as his ringtone.

He is broad at the shoulder,
  and built like a tank,
and everybody knows you shouldn't give no lip,
  to big Hank.

Hank's picture
I am not endorsing any changes to his song!    Little brother is 6'4 and 250 lbs. (*)
You can't see it in the pic but even on holiday in Florida, I am wearing a Scientific Blogging shirt!



(*)  But if he comes after you for your song editing above, he has a gimpy knee so kick it.   Just don't let him fall on you when he goes down.

...dude...please tell me you have those "low cut" sox on and not sans sox..."on Holiday" is what the "Euro's" call a vacation, what are you..a sympathizer???

Becky Jungbauer's picture
Today the Baseball Hall of Fame was officially dedicated at Cooperstown, N.Y. And I definitely couldn't forget Killebrew - he is Dad's favorite player (he even has Killebrew's rookie card), and I wore his number for my high school hockey jersey. Plus, if you go to the Mall of America (the former site of Met Stadium), one of the streets bordering it is named Killebrew Drive. You can also see the spot there in the amusement park where he hit the longest homerun in Twins' history (an old red stadium seat from Met Stadium marks the spot, see left).

...hey don't look at me that was Jungbauer. If I remember right she has mentioned before about you and Cheetos a month or so ago...

Becky Jungbauer's picture
Guilty as charged. My nutrition has come in mostly liquid form the past several days thanks to a charming stomach bug that won't quit, so food is (even more so than usual) foremost on my mind. I don't think he looks like Jimmy Dean the sausage guy, but rather the photo evokes somewhat of a devil-may-care attitude in many of James Dean's pics.

...ohh, my mistake...but if your hungry Jimmy Dean sausage is rather good. I think James Dean made only two movies before fate befell a new direction for him. Looking at Hanks pic a bit closer all he needs is a worn T-shirt sans any cheetos stains from wiping his fingers

Becky Jungbauer's picture
Since you wanted baseball posts...check this out. This guy is amazing.

Because of Major League Baseballs move to standardize ballpark orientation, all new stadiums must be built with the left field line pointing due north. Which means the right field line points due east. The old Yankee Stadiuim right field line was southeast. So the winds that blew to center field didn't have the effect that they do now pushing home run balls out to right field. No way to fix it other than picking the stadium up and turning it.

Hank's picture
I can fix it in an hour with a thousand dollars in material.  You put a scoop up there.

logicman's picture
I can fix it in an hour with a thousand dollars in material.  You put a scoop up there.

Why spend on aerodynamic structures when you can just tap it with your hammer?
Or are the noise pollution fines too stiff?

Hank's picture
I don't think it's that.  I read the NY Post at breakfast this morning so 'noise' seems to be something they don't mind here.  However, they did pay to have someone dress up as a clown and they sent him into the offices of lawmakers who are acting like children.   That was pretty terrific.

logicman's picture
they did pay to have someone dress up as a clown and they sent him into the offices of lawmakers who are acting like children.

Yeah!  We get this sort of thing a lot in the UK.

...where is "Benny Hill" when you need him?? God I miss that guy....

I read about this house on some previous articles and I just wanted to say that they made a great job. Sometimes when I see things like this happening I feel like I want to build a house like this as well and who knows maybe sometime I will have the necessary money and time to start such a project.

Hank's picture
Sometimes spam posts are so random, nonsensical and out place I have to leave them for sheer humor purposes.   For dreaming about building this $1 billion 'house' if you 'have the time' because house is in the title, you win the prize today, automated spam account oliver.1402@gmail.com

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