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By Hank Campbell | July 20th 2009 06:10 PM | 16 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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About Hank Campbell

A wise man once said Darwin had the greatest idea anyone ever had. Others may prefer Newton or Archimedes.

Probably no one ever said a website was the greatest idea anyone ever had, but a website... Full Bio

Yesterday I wrote how Anthony Wesley, who hails from Canberra, Australia, grabbed this shot of a new dark spot near the south pole of Jupiter.

It's left to bigger minds (and bigger telescopes) than mine to sort out what caused it but while the blogosphere has been buzzing, JPL has been observing.

Anthony Wesley Murrumbateman Australia dark spot on Jupiter
Preliminary image showing a black mark in Jupiters South Polar Region (SPR).  Weather, moon shadow or huge meteor/asteroid/comet impact?  Image captured by Anthony Wesley on 19th July 2009 at 1554UTC from Murrumbateman Australia

Initially, some speculated it could be weather.   Here is what weather on Jupiter looks like.  

In this quasi-true-color view of Jupiter's Little Red Spot, generated using a New Horizons-LORRI mosaic in the red and green channels and a Hubble Space Telescope 410 nm map in the blue channel, the "LRS" appears with distinctly redder color than the south tropical disturbance to the north or the small oval to the southeast.

Image from June 2008 issue of the Astronomical Journal. Credit: NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/HST:
weather on Jupiter spot moving


Here's what JPL now sees.

impact on Jupiter
Image shows a large impact shown on the bottom left on Jupiter's south polar region captured on July 20, 2009, by NASA's Infrared Telescope Facility in Mauna Kea, Hawaii. This image was taken at 1.65 microns, a wavelength sensitive to sunlight reflected from high in Jupiter's atmosphere, and it shows both the bright center of the scar (bottom left) and the debris to its northwest (upper left).  Credit: NASA/JPL/Infrared Telescope Facility

It's definitely a scar ... and exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9.  Shoemaker-Levy 9 was a comet that broke into pieces before it hit Jupiter in 1994.   Like that event, it's hard to know if this was a comet or an asteroid because they're both small, both primordial and both relatively plentiful around Jupiter.

The new infrared images show the impact point was near the south polar region, with a visibly dark mark and brighter upwelling particles in the upper atmosphere in near-infrared wavelengths, along with a warming of the upper troposphere with possible extra emission from ammonia gas detected at mid-infrared wavelengths.

"It could be the impact of a comet, but we don't know for sure yet," said Glenn Orton, a scientist at JPL. "It's been a whirlwind of a day, and this on the anniversary of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 and Apollo anniversaries is amazing."

Leigh Fletcher, a NASA postdoctoral student at JPL who worked with Orton during these latest observations and Tweeted about the developments as they happened said, "Given the rarity of these events, it's extremely exciting to be involved in these observations. These are the most exciting observations I've seen in my five years of observing the outer planets!"

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Great reporting. Much appreciated.

Hank's picture
Hi Jim,  thanks.   I like that JPL at least acknowledged that an amateur was first on the scene with this: 
Following up on a tip by an amateur astronomer, Anthony Wesley of Australia

Mainstream media sites too often have a 'thanks kid, you did good' mentality toward amateur sources and then act like they found it. In astronomy, there are no 'stringers' but there are people looking at the sky all of the time.

The fact that impact occurred on the southern pole of Jupiter might indicate fragments from planet X which is getting closer to earth

Hank's picture
Are you one of the Mayan Shamen who is doing reconnaisance work for when you reappear out of the LHC in 2012 with an army of Strangelet robots and take over the world?

logicman's picture
Are you one of the Mayan Shamen who is doing reconnaisance work for
when you reappear out of the LHC in 2012 with an army of Strangelet
robots and take over the world?

As predicted in the Voynich Manuscript?

Yep!  That's definitely an Anglo-Saxon blueprint for an LHC!


Hank's picture
I will see your Voynich and raise you a Tolkein Sauron ...



... plus Hitler being an avatar of Vishnu who is communing with Hyperborean gods in an Antarctic base from which he will lead a fleet of UFOs to establish the Fourth Reich.

I can do this all day.   You're on Greenwich time.  You'll pass out way before I do.

P.S.  Planet X, my ass.

logicman's picture
You're on Greenwich time.  You'll pass out way before I do.

Which I did!  Good morning America!

LOL. Albeit, given the accuracy of Maya astronomers and astronomy, they might not appreciate the suggested association.

Well aren't you guys funny? '

I am writing sci fi comedy Borges meets Dick with a splash of Blavatsky. In my spare time, of course.

Do you listen to Jim McCanney? If not, you should! He is the one who said comets aren't dirty snowballs, before it became so frickin obvious.

briantaylor's picture
Thanks for reporting this Hank.
This is the most I've heard about this event so far. Hopefully some SBers will keep us up to date...
enjoying the silliness too boys...

questions from a busy/lazy man,
1. Did this "thing" pop out of nowhere? (too fast to sense it before the impact?)
2. can it be tracked retroactively? (path, speed, etc.)
3. anything else out there? (pieces of a series?)

and, for the record, everybody knows that Thoth the Atlantean predates the Mayan so if anyone is gonna take over it will be him. Less likely from the LHC more likely from the halls of Amenti, via the Richard Byrd expressway.

Everything is a member of some set or other...

Hank's picture
It popped out of nowhere.   There are a lot of comets and asteroids floating around but we'll never know which it was - someone will give a name to it, to make it sound authoritative (like with S-L 9) but that's just because we saw the damage after the fact.   It won't be anything recognizable beforehand.

We most likely only saw it because, like SL-9, it broke into enough pieces that it created damage in a wide enough area to be seen.

LauraHult's picture
Hank, I'm not up on the electric comet theory.  Is it junk or still out to lunch?  Found this at http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2006/arch06/060215deepimpact.htm :

"The Hubble Space Telescope (HST) detected a flare-up of fragment “G” of Shoemaker-Levy long before impact at a distance of 2.3 million miles from Jupiter. For the electrical theorists this flash would occur as the fragment crossed Jupiter’s plasma sheath, or magnetosphere boundary. Thornhill comments: “A plasma sheath, or ‘double layer’, is a region of strong electric field, so the outburst there of an electrified comet nucleus is expected. The outburst was a surprise to astronomers. Hubble’s Faint Object Spectrograph (FOS) recorded strong emissions from fragment ‘G’ of ionized magnesium but no hydroxyl radical (OH), expected from water ice”. Also, after the flare-up in magnesium emissions there was a “dramatic change in the light reflected from the dust particles in the comet”. All told, the similarities to the Deep Impact flash are remarkable.

Just after the impact of SL-9 fragment “K”, HST detected unusual auroral activity that was brighter than Jupiter’s normal aurora and outside their normal area. Radiation belts were disrupted. There were unexpectedly bright X-ray emissions at the time of impact..."


Seems to me there would be some detectable chemical differences between a dusty iceball hitting Jupiter's atmosphere vs. a plain ol' rock.  Any ideas?

briantaylor's picture

Hey all, here's some news I found at

spaceweather.com



JUPITER'S IMPACT CLOUD
EXPANDS:
Jupiter's impact cloud is expanding.
On July 19th, when it was discovered
by amateur astronomer Anthony Wesley, the dark mark near Jupiter's
south pole was barely visible in backyard telescopes. Five days
later Wesley photographed the impact cloud again and found that
it had approximately tripled in size:


High-resolution
images
from the Hubble Space Telescope reveal what's happening:
turbulence and jet streams in Jupiter's atmosphere are causing the
cloud to spread out. The vast impact site is now tens of thousands
of times wider than the 100m-class comet or asteroid that created
it.

The expansion of the cloud makes it easier than ever to see through
a backyard telescope: sky
map
. The cloud is located near Jupiter's System II longitude
210°. For the predicted times when it will cross the planet's central
meridian, add 2 hours and 6 minutes to Sky and Telescope's predicted
transit times
for Jupiter's Great Red Spot.

goto spaceweather.com for link to more pictures


briantaylor's picture
anybody see 2010: The year we make contact?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMYgq-0cGI&feature=related

LauraHult's picture
One of my all time favorite movies.

"All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing there.
Use them together. Use them in peace."


Would that it were that easy.

i am a student
i wanna knowmore about this impact
can u help me?

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