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By Bente Lilja Bye | August 5th 2009 02:40 PM | 16 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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About Bente Lilja Bye

Earth science expert and astrophysicist writes about Earth observation, geodesy, climate change, geohazards, water cycle and other science related topics.

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Hitler's gift to astronomy? What?

Believe it or not, Hitler wanted to give Mussolini and Rome a planetarium*. Rome was among the first in the world to build a planetarium. Italy (and Mussolini) had already taken a planetarium as part of the 'compensation' for the damage Germany did to Italy in WW1 and opened the first Roman planetarium already in 1928.

It is the most peculiar story, so much so that I feel compelled to tell, however little, what I know about this hidden treasure of planetarium history...

Hitlers gift to Rome 3

It started, of course, with my interest in astronomy and my social media activities. 2009 is the International Year of Astronomy (IYA) and I am making virtual friends all over the place, with people that share my interest in astronomy. The founder of The Virtual Telescope, an initiative under the IYA, Gianluca Masi was one of those virtual friends. Gianluca works at the Rome planetarium as well and as I was going to Rome this summer I decided to accept Gianlucas generous invitation to visit the Planetarium - and perhaps make a virtual friend become a real one.

I have visited Rome on several occasions before but I don't mind revisiting this place packed with historic sites, over and over again. After struggling with the Roman summer heat yet still enjoying the city's traditional splendor, the day arrived when we had an appointment with Gianluca to visit the Rome Planetarium. It so happens that since 2004, the Rome Planetarium is situated in EUR on the outskirts of Rome. EUR has a very special architecture you find no where else in the world. The contrast of traditional Roman architecture, however mixed that is in itself, to EUR is indescribable.

It is not even possible to experience it by looking at images, you simply have to go there.

And that is what I did.



I must say that I found it a bit odd that Rome had chosen to place their planetarium on the outskirts of Rome when they have so many buildings in the center that would immediately seem more natural as host to a planetarium. In fact, the planetarium was placed somewhere else to begin with, when Hitler thought of giving Mussolini his gift in the 1930ties. It was placed in a building with a dome, very appropriate, close to piazza Venezia in the heart of the city.

We all know that Italian politics is completely incomprehensible and I will not even attempt to understand why they decided to shut it down in the 80ties. However, the people of Rome, and I assume the rest of Italy, started to complain and claim the reopening of a planetarium. That, on the other hand, I can understand. :-)

Rome Planetarium


Their choice of place to reestablish Rome Planetarium fell on EUR far from the center of town where it used to be. Surprisingly it actually make sense now that I've been there and know a little about the history of this part of Rome. Mussolini was a man with grand ideas and he had set his mind on creating a place where one could find a replica of all Roman buildings from around the world. Replica is misleading here, because that normally means that it looks more or less exactly the same.

That is not he case with the buildings in EUR where Mussolini started to implement his ideas. No, the buildings here are a communistized version of Roman buildings. You read me correctly - communistized!

Mussolini was a fascist, but his architectural taste was definitely similar to that of the communists. I visited Bulgaria in the '80ies before the Wall went down and got a taste of communist building fashion. It is most extraordinary - and depressing. In Rome you find this style, but it is far less depressing. But, like I said, you just got to go visit to fully appreciate what I try to describe.

Hitlers gift to Rome 2

Now, since EUR was Mussolinis unfinished project, it was stopped by the onset of WW2, it actually makes sense to place 'Germany's gift' to Mussolini, the Rome Planetarium, in this part of Rome. The result is that, not only do you get to experience a wonderful 'sky', the planetarium is of very high quality as in the sky is really black and you see plenty of stars, but you are immersed in last century political history at the same time.


Rome Planetarium

Rome Planetarium

Rome Planetarium

The Rome Planetarium offers real live shows. It is in fact live performances going on. In spite of the fact that my mother, who never before had been to a planetarium in her life, does not know a word of Italian, she truly enjoyed the show where Gianluca explained how asteroids are swirling around in the Universe hitting on the planets in our solar system - including our own Earth. The 'sky' was almost as dark as an autumn night in the Norwegian mountains and you could easily recognize the different constellations. Highly recommendable even for non-Italians!

PhotobucketRome PlanetariumRome Planetarium

Outside the planetarium Gianluca and his colleagues had made an excellent exhibition. Emphasizing that planet Earth is not alone but an integral part of the Universe around us.

We have not yet been able to establish if Hitler actually decided to give Mussolini a planetarium. He was advised not to since the Italians already had taken a bite of the excellent German optics from Jena and Carl Zeiss as payment for the damages in WW1. If you have information about this, please do write me and tell.

This little story is also a report to modern times planetarium producer, Carolyn Collins Petersen, whom I promised to send pictures from my visit to Rome Planetarium. Mission accomplished!


* David Irving: Hitler’s War and The War Path

...There were other flaws. Hitler had proposed giving Italy a planetarium.
Ribbentrop pointed out that Italy already had two, both robbed from Germany
as post-war reparations. ‘It would seem to me, therefore,’ Ribbentrop
observed in a note, ‘that the gift of a planetarium to Mussolini might be
somewhat out of place.’...

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The EUR name is an acronym...it meant "Esposizione Universale Roma" (Rome Universal Expo) and should have hosted the projected 1942 World Fair Expo...

...given the opening date I guess you can imagine how well that project fared...

....Fascism's architectural taste was deeply dicotomic...for all of its lip-service to the glories of Imperial Rome Fascism acknowledged itself as a 20th-century political movement and some of its inner factions fancied to be even more "modern" and "cutting edge" than contemporary Bolshevik or Liberal regimes...

...so some party hierarchies started petting and protecting rationalist architects and commissioning them "modern" versions of faux-roman buildings...as long as they had lots of arches, white concrete and pseudo-classical sculptures all around...

the EUR zone was totally molded in this style...the lady's astonishment at how similar it looks to architecture of former Eastern Bloc countries is justified since architectural rationalism naturally rang a bell in self-described 'socialist' regimes...

...in 1960 most of the EUR was involved in the Summer Olympics, finally fulfilling their original destination of hosting a major international event...even if 18 years and a World War later...

Kull.

Stellare's picture
Thank you for filling out the information about EUR. It is a creative use of an unfinished world Fair Expo the Romans have here. I add another image from the place for you all to enjoy:



Dave Deamer's picture
Thank you Bente for a delightful article. Next time I'm in Rome, there will be something new to see.

Stellare's picture
Thank you, Dave! Visiting Rome Planetarium and EUR was intensely interesting, and such a contrast to rest of Rome. It is just very different at EUR. I remember seeing that name on the maps earlier and thought it had something to do with the European Union or perhaps EURO, the European currency. Hahaha Not really thinking much about it other than having a slight curiosity that I couldn't do anything about because of busy schedules.

Now I know I will revisit the area next time I'm in Rome. Both for the planetarium and other sights.

Hank's picture
Planetariums have terrific value, though like all simulations they can skew perspective a little(*).   Neil deGrasse Tyson, when not blazed on gimlets or whatever he was drinking while trying to steal Bloggy during the World Science Festival ...

Neil deGrasse Tyson

said (I am paraphrasing) 'the first time I saw the stars was at Hayden Planetarium(**) and when I finally got a chance to see them for real I thought, wow, that looks a lot like Hayden Planetarium', which I thought was pretty funny.

(*) Perception from images and projections are not always positive.  When Kim and I visited the Sistine Chapel, another American couple was also there, and the lady said to her fellow, "That's it?   It's so busy.  I expected something more spectacular."

I guess painting the entire Bible on a ceiling can end up a little crowded.

(**) When he was 9, he visited it and fell in love with astronomy.  Now he works there.   I think that's terrific

Stellare's picture
Planetariums are indeed valuable for astronomy and general education. I did not see this until rather recently as I grew up on the country side where a planetarium could never exceed the quality of real life universe available at all times (well, except summer when the sun refuse to go down in this neck of the woods...)

I therefore didn't visit one for a long time. Plus, I was never an amateur either. Always a professional astronomer/astrophysicist. (This is one of my favorite semi-ironic jokes about myself).

A couple of years ago when I was at a meeting in LA, I visited Griffith observatory. This observatory was actually among the very first outside Europe to install a planetarium together with Adler in Chicago (the first in the US) and Hayden where the famous deGrasse Tyson rules.

Apropos this guy, which I have never heard or seen other than occasionally on the internets: what a name! I mean, how could he not end up being a show man in astronomy. I am positively sure that his parents named him after Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon. deGrasse must be some sort of central European noble family, or perhaps a intensely colorful creole, and combine that with the name of a brute boxer; Tyson and you are destined to be who Neil deGrasse Tyson is. :-)

And Hank, I think you need to take Bloggy (and Kim of course) and get yourselves over to Europe and Rome Planetarium just to take some more awesome pictures. I am sure Gianluca Masi will be the perfect host for you guys as well. :-) Bloggy needs to meet Gianluca!

Becky Jungbauer's picture
Next time you go to the Sistine Chapel, one of you should tear/break a part of your leg/foot. You get to jump to the front of the line and avoid the massive crowds of neanderthals like that lady. And you can even request a handsome Swiss Guard to escort you.

I love planetariums - if you visit D.C. check out the Einstein Planetarium in the Air and Space Museum. On the left coast the Griffith Observatory is nice too, and it even has something for visiting Trekkies.

Hank's picture
If I'm faking an injury to cut in line ... in Vatican City ... I think I am missing the whole point.  :)

jtwitten's picture
What if I just give them money to get to go to front of the line?  Or does that only work for mortal sins?

Hank's picture
I'm not sure, I assume buying indulgences is a venial sin since about 1535 anyway so it would seem to be a big circle of buying your way out of trouble.   I guess we could ask a Kennedy?

Stellare's picture
A press card will do the magic. I assume you and Scientificblogging has a set of press cards? :-)

Or you could do something unChristianly (as we say here in Norway) and get up real early - unChristianly early. Then you avoid the lines from Hell. :-)

It is true that the Chapel was packed. I was still able to enjoy the sight, but it would have been so much better to be there alone. Americans, in general, have a certain fashion of appreciating art and historic sites: 'if you've seen one, you've seen them all'.  I'm just telling what I have overheard on several occasions - not said with the slightest bit of irony. :-)

Becky Jungbauer's picture
I didn't say fake it! I wouldn't do that; I'd feel too guilty. When you're as accident-prone/clumsy as I am, body parts just tend to be in various states of disrepair. But thanks for thinking I'm trying to cheat the Vatican. That says a lot about me... :)

Stellare's picture
I will try to get myself to Einstein then, next time I'm in D.C. I did visit Griffith, though not the planetarium, a couple of years ago. It is so beautiful there - inside and outside.

Hi co-stumbler! Nice to read you here. I am a bit confused, I thought a planetarium by definition had the capacity of offering real live shows: isn't it the charm of this type of machinery? The first ones are German created by Zeiss, that would explain Hitler's promotional efforts (also why Germany has so many). Hilter had an economic program to restrict imports and increase exports; I think promoting Zeiss is just part of that program. Due to the Versailles treaty, Germany treasure was very depleted during 1918-1940. The program itself did not quite work because Hitler needed too much oil and steel to prepare for war.
The first planetarium, I think was in 1923 in Iena. I know for sure that the first French one dates from the international exhibit of 1937 and was in the Grand Palais in Paris (I spent there many hours in the 70s). They even had an experiment with real birds following the apparent movement of the stars.
The planetarium became the modern fad after the Panorama, the 3-D representation of battles or religious subjects in circular buildings. Nowadays, TV has replaced the panorama and the computer's Stellarium has replaced the planetarium!

I lived in Rome and this post really brings me back there. Great.

Hi there! I meant to comment here the first time I read this story -- lovely job and lovely planetarium! We didn't have enough time when we were in Rome to visit this place, but perhaps next summer we will get the chance.

To Claude -- a planetarium, by definition, is the instrument in the middle of the room. It stands in a star theater, and both can be used for both live and recorded presentations of all kinds. In fact, many are used in many ways. You would be surprised at what can be done in them now!

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