Dr. Bailey,

You talk like a fool. This is a theory you have, not fact. It is sad that someone cannot say something nice about someone even when they are dead. My parents told me that if you cannot say something good about someone then don't say anything. There will be only one judge upon the life of Michael Jackson and that is "God". You do not have that right. In the last years of Michael's life, he was treated like some type of freak by his own country. After his passing, his fans try to remember him for who he really was. Mr. Bailey you could have mentioned all the cheritable organizations that he gave to or how he helped bring people from other countries and cultures together. Mr. Baily you decided to do a piece on what kind of weird person he is. Remember Mr. Bailey you will be judged in the end also. What will people say about you.

On behalf of the trans community, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

My first thought upon hearing that you had written an essay on Michael Jackson was, Oh no, you too! Seems like one can't get away from journalistic essays about him since he died. But upon reading this I was very pleasantly surprised, because you managed to do much more than simply write about Jackson on a personal level. It was a perfect illustration of the process in which one examines a set of facts, eliminates irrelevant possibilities, then considers more likely ones until finally reaching a point of relative sureness.

Your conclusions make a lot of sense to me. I'm sure further research would provide more verification and more insight into the specifics of how he saw himself, and whether he saw his condition as a mere facet of self, or as demonic possession.

This is definitely worth further looking into, as it's a area not explored. At least I am unaware of any research in this area

Perhaps Michael Jackson was an autohebocaucaphile?

Hmm...I wonder why this theory was not espoused while he was still alive...

"Hmm...I wonder why this theory was not espoused while he was still alive..."

Because he just thought it up, much like The Sun came up with the fake autopsy report, and wanted to get in on the feeding frenzy with the rest of the bottom feeders.

"What is the DSM term for someone who uses celebrity deaths as a vehicle for attention seeking? What would be the sexual motive which underlies that phenomenon?"

In this case, you call it "Micheal Baileying"
Having read different articles this man has written, it seems to me he has some fixation on sexual issues and is maybe trying to figure out, or share with the world, what is going on with himself.

your need counceling

Dr Bailey uses as his primary source about MJ's plastic surgery a report from the UK tabloid "The Sun" .

Perhaps he'd be willing to speculate similarly on another report from that august publication, 'Jacko's ghost at Neverland'.

OK, enough of the snarkiness. Truth is truth, even if it comes from less than wholly credible sources. But is it true? I think we would have had some confirmation from a second source by now if it were.

It seems to me though that, like much of the work by CAMH, there is an awful lot of conjecture, theorising and wild speculation, and not a lot of actual evidence supporting it. Reasonable for a blog entry as a fanciful conjecture, but to call it a "theory" overstates the case.

Oh no, wait he had the Body Integrity Identity Disorder. I am shure that Blanchard and Lawrence will write this too later. What a poor thinking of shrinks.

Reading these comments, I can only wonder if there is a negative association between autogynephilia and spelling ability.

Well reasoned article. I am a lesbian and had a close friend years ago who is a M-to-F transsexual, so I am sensitive to sexual minorities and their self expression.. MJ always struck me as a transsexual, but your argument is finer than I had considered. In his death, I had sincerely hoped more light would fall onto MtFs (or whatever group MJ belonged to), so that their suffering could be known more widely. There are others like MJ out there, feeling alone and strange. Having his/her condition better known would help them, I believe. Thank you for your article.

From an epistemological point of view, this is really a poor job: Theories based on single observation by one of the most controversed "researchers" about gender identity, we are better off without this kind of stuff. It is unfortunately below any acceptable lever of materials useful for scientific discussion. The pity is that too many resources are wasted for this kind of nonsense and too little in serious research.

Michael Jackson's Golf Cart.

Photos from an auction of Michael Jackson's stuff by Paul Scheer.
Link to the rest of the photos.

How do we know that hormones or estrogen supplementation would not cause vitiligo? All this talk that his or his brother's'
or Jermaine's is an affectation is non-sense! The girls may sound like this, but the guys? Especially Michael? Yes! You can train your voice to sing just about anything! Is there any hunch that The Bee Gees were taking hormones? I don't think so! Hey! Paul McCartney's Kids should be telling The Jackson Family, 'I want my Daddy's Records!'

Yes! I have seen cases of affectations in guys or particular person I knew, where they were born with a little to much estrogen or a hormone inbalance, but from observing The Jacksons, that family had enough testosterone then you could say grace over before they started monkeying with themselves!

Also - Jackson was an artist and a perfectionist.

I think he thought of his face as a canvas and just didn't know when to stop painting. I think he was going for his version of perfection no matter what the cost.

Strangely enough, he really does look good in the last photos before he died for a 50 year old person. Although, not manly but beautiful. I am not commenting on his coloring because that really may have been out of his control.

Hontas.

We do need to have a little honesty here. J. Michael Bailey has not from my understanding ever spoke to Michael Jackson, Much less actually spoke to him in any clinical context. A lot of the content of his article about Michael Jackson reads like applying clinical terms to the many and varied media descriptions of Michael Jackson. Bailey's article is a very detailed example of speculation. But as a scientist yourself, you have to agree, the article certainly is not scientific.

This does seem to be a hallmark of Bailey's writings. he would make a brilliant tabloid journalist. But as his chosen profession is that of psychology professor/sexologist. this style of writing does not work too well in a scientific context.

Stephen Wayrough

poor human being.. born with a debilitating (brain) disease,,,,all these crazy over the top talents...raised by a mother fucker father....hoW else would you cope// oh and LUPUS sure as hell doesn't help

Bailey only creates further confusion in this world by saying everything is inborn,something that can never be dealt with. Does he want to disturb the natural order in this world just because there are a few true transsexuals? He only has sex in his mind, he is the enemy of transsexuals as well as normal people. Please call practical corporate managers to deal with this issue. I wish I could throw away such craps.

I recently came to know that even homosexuality can be cured through meeting internal desires of love and affection from the same gender, so, it's wrong to conclude that gay men are born with their sex. But these researchers and activists are just fooling people around with their craps to disturb the natural order in this world.

Is this BS for real? J. Michael Bailey is a "hackademic" whose shoddy junk science was thoroughly exposed during the controversy surrounding his ludicrous, offensive and bigoted book The Man who Would be Queen. Now, he is trying to foment more exploitative controversies because, as a scientist, and a researcher, he is without any merit. His MO is to create these phony controversies to further his own name only and perpetuate the specious notion that he is an edgy and embattled scientist. But HE is not the victim here. The victims are bisexuals, trans people, Michael Jackson and others who dare to be different and to challenge societal norms. And Hontas Farmer, please quit your annoying campaign of defending Bailey, Blanchard, Lawrence, Dreger et al. in order to get a few shards of attention. You are starting to look like an operative for their cause, and the image is quite unflattering!

Wow. This theory is certainly mind-blowing and eye-opening, and I agree that the whole "he just wants his childhood back" thing is played out and pointless. But I don't think his plastic surgery is all that strange. Other celebrities' skin has mysteriously become lightened as they've become more and more famous (Lil Kim) and many, many other celebrities are clearly addicted to plastic surgery. I know he wasn't particularly nice to look at towards the end, but frankly, neither are most people with tons and tons of plastic surgery. When it comes to editing, knowing when to stop is key. Though he mastered the skill of "editing" appropriately when it came to his wardrobe, music, or art of any form; when it came to editing himself through surgery, he understandably had no clue when to stop seeing as how you can't have a lifetime of training to comprehend the nuances of when to stop. The Peter Pan theory is nice, but frankly I don't think it's that far off from the original theory you cast down. They're both revolving around the idea that all that Neverland talk we heard about was the real Michael. Yes, I'm sure he loved children and Neverland Ranch and unquestionably he crossed several boundaries with children. But he crossed several boundaries everywhere (music, surgery, art...). The man didn't even see boundaries for the most part. Also, I read in several places that he had severe breathing problems...couldn't that account for the light voice?

Also, if you believe this was his condition...how do you account for his children? How does someone who gets surgery to look like a pubescent boy and purposefully alter his voice just to act like and get along with other children and at the same time want to be a parent to children? I'm not saying he was the most conventional father of the year, but it's never been indicated that he abused his own children in anyway.

With respect to what Bailey says about human whims and desires, why do we blame Mr. Bush for the Iraq war? He became a dominist but what was his fault? He was born to be so and there is no medical cure for it.
I think Bailey wants to devastate this world by saying that paraphilias are inborn and so should be left as such. I advise doctors to avoid and shun these crazy researchers and in their best interests instead, set up medical counselling centres to cure patients with paraphilias. Trans people may be born with what they are but that never justifies that every person having desires is born to have them and take recourse to them.

It's so ridiculous to say that there is correlation between sexuality and increased abilities. I am gay but don't at all love fashion and music, I am into computer engineering and designing, but I am not autogynephile. Bailey is a typical stereotypical foolish researcher wo only believes in a bunch of stereotypes. There are as many labels possible for people as there are number of people in this world, as every person is unique. So, Bailey's typical labels are derogatory.

gay men enjoy conventionally handsome and masculine faces. I've studied gay speech inborn errors of brain development. Homosexual drag queens and transsexuals are exclusively and unambiguously attracted to men, and they do not cross dress or behave like women, or imagine that they have female genitalia, in order to excite themselves sexually.
Really? How many musicians, athletes, and actors have had overbearing parents who made their childhoods miserable? How many of these resemble Jackson in any way whatsoever

This article is entirely shocking to me. I have only skimmed the above comments but feel confident from what i have read that this article inspires reactions similar to mine in many others. (whew!) i was particularly astounded by dr, baily’s many generalizing assertions such as " gay men enjoy conventionally handsome and masculine faces " or " Homosexual drag queens and transsexuals are exclusively and unambiguously attracted to men, and they do not cross dress or behave like women, or imagine that they have female genitalia, in order to excite themselves sexually." Of course there are exceptions to these ‘rules’ (which are not substantiated or sited in any way in this “scientific” article!) i mean can we at least get a "generally" or a "usually'?? this read like a an animal planet episode ... or worse, a excerpt out of some social-Darwinist paper. i am not sure (nor is it on my to-do list to get sure) if michael jackson abused any children or what his deepest sexual desires were (if any). i DO know that I (a heterosexual female with no history of abuse or mental illness) am delighted by and enlivened by the company of children (for me, female children - those close to or approaching adolescence are particularly refreshing - likely due to my having had – like most I think - both the most wonderful and terrifying times of my life in those typically mixed days), when i am feeling for one reason or another alienated, shy or just sick of adult in-authenticity, i generally gravitate toward kids if they are to be found at the moment. i happen to also be "obsessed" with peter pan - having been since childhood - and EVEN as an adult (when i was still single in my 20s) i'd often say i loved "impish" boys – finding myself attracted to small and elf-like men as well as women occasionally - and ALSO i do not imagine i am very strange or out of the ordinary for my need to feel attractive in order to be aroused sexually - what i mean is - when i am feeling attractive (after donning a new dress and some good lip gloss for instance) i am FAR more likely to end up in bed w/ my husband than on a day when i have remained in my slippers and have garlic breath. AND since i have never been blessed with large breasts or a curvy more womanly figure (in fact most of me at age 31 looks almost identical to my 12 year old self - no exaggeration) i have long since decided to "go with it" celebrating my own "impishness". so the result has been this: a dating history and marriage which tends toward partners who are attracted to (presumably) somewhat androgynous, small, girlish, women and who themselves are not much larger and only slightly more 'masculine' than myself. Wow, maybe mr. baily or one of his collegues would like to diagnose me? perhaps even invent a new inborn error of brain development name for my condition? No need to meet me in person – though the lack of tabloid articles on me may make it more difficult to make a scientific diagnosis.
i also experienced vocal chord nodules as an adolescent - since i was a classically trained singer at the time, it was pretty distressing to lose my vocal tone and range as a result. after visiting vocal therapists and surgeons, i learned that the only hope to regain my lost singing voice was to raise my speaking voice far above its "natural" register. i went to therapy and they made me talk JUST like michael - i joked about it then! i couldn't do it – though many singers do – or undergo surgery in addition or instead - but my hunch is that michael jackson did in order to maintain a singing voice which made him famous and which was destined to change unless he worked very hard to maintain it. dr. baily seems to have avoided a number of these quite logical possibilities for MJ’s behaviors and appearance.
I also have lupus and my father has vitigo. MJ was diagnosed with both of these – presumably by a doctor who physically met with him. It is ridiculous to hypothesize about his physical and emotional health or appearance without taking these conditions into account. My father is Italian American, not African American – and even on his relatively light skin, the condition has manifested as (interestingly) a white glove which over time has slowly spread up his arm and has thus far reached his neck. This is not subtle – it is snow white – and his doctor has told him that if he is interested in remedying the cosmetic appearance (which he is not) topical whitening agents could even things out a bit over time. I assume this is what MJ has done – and it makes a pretty good case for vitigo as the reason for his famous white glove – pretty brilliant, no?
Lupus causes a host of mental and physical symptoms.
Also, my father was not so great at parenthood and happened to have a huge nose which i inherited. if i could mess with my nose as easily as plucking my eyebrows (as MJ presumably could) and my physical appearance was extremely visible and essential to my career, i may have taken it to an extreme as well.
the author is very naive to site MJs style of dress and long hair etc as sign of mental defect - has he checked out the manner of dress and makeup etc of almost every male pop artist who enjoyed major fame in the 80s?? MJ is a manly man in comparison to many of them. and i would argue that there are LOTS of other once child stars who have had a hard time moving out of the cute kid persona in adult hood. look at drew barymore. how is she any less child-like than MJ? (though Dr. baily seems to use traditional gender roles as his main measure for normalcy – allowing for much more child-like behavior from the weaker sex) this guy may have been bizarre - but lets not forget he was a humanitarian. he had been abused as a child yes, and longed to give the gift of fantastic memories to other kids - and perhaps to do the same for himself. i read that he said once that water balloon fights and climbing trees were his favorite pas-times. i'd put both pretty high on my list - but would guess many wouldn't since sadly most adults can't remember the last time they did these things. i'd challenge anyone to try it first before judging MJ for loving them so much.
I’m not saying michael Jackson wasn’t mentally ill – I’m just really unconvinced by this article by mr. baily and its particular diagnosis – nor am I convinced that it is an important addition to psychological science in general. But he’s the expert – is he???
so from a woman who is aroused by her own child-like body and men/women who are as well, who loves kids and even lets her own and their friends sleep all night in her bed, who is fascinated by peter pan, who wishes she had the discipline to feign a voice like michael's as he had, who has actually had LOTS of gay friends who according to this article are abnormal in their abnormal-ness, who thinks it is a complete shame if it is actually true that a man who enjoys helping and spending time with children as much as i do is almost certainly a predator and who thinks this article is no less smutty and useless than any tabloid crap in the grocery isle today – (I think he is actually citing a tabloid in his article – and no scientific research either)……… i say, he's dead – if he victimized anyone – he will not do it again. There is no other reason to dwell on the inner-workings of michael jackson’s sexual desires or mental health. That last paragraph or so of the above article was such a crock of slapped on BS - we have nothing to learn from an article like this one or by trying to dehumanize one man who was challenged in ways none of us could totally comprehend. I was under the impression that a psychologist needs to at least MEET a patient before making a diagnosis. In general, if psychology (and science in general) is all about these broad generalizations - ie. gays do not... or cross dressers always... then there is nothing scientifically useful to learn from a case like Michael Jackson - in whose life the confounding factors were so extremely exemplary and unique. this article alone could make an already insecure or identity-confused individual crazy - glad i am assured enough myself not to feel shame at my own similarities to MJ. i say to the author - go fly a kite or climb a tree - assure yourself you have no interest in such odd activities.
- look at your favorite actress (assuming you are heterosexual) - notice her youthful skin - her 100 lb body - assure yourself that she'd be more attractive with wrinkles, a belly, ass and sagging boobs. but be glad she's over 18 and a woman – be glad you aren’t attracted to anything resembling a 12 year old.
- put on a nice suit and get a haircut - look in the mirror and assure yourself that there is nothing about looking your best – your sexiest - that makes you more in the mood for sex
- play with your kids, or someone else’s kids - better yet hang out with a kid (an adolescent male one) that has been neglected and abused and now is dying of cancer - show him the time of his life and when he is scared at night since he's supposedly approaching deaths door, DO NOT let him sleep in your bed… or do and see how satisfying it is to see a kid feel safe on account of your generosity. or notice how uncomfortable you were with that whole experience, how inappropriate it felt to spend so much time with a child - especially to have a boy in your bed - notice how VERY uncomfortable you feel - and report back. You will perhaps notice - those whose skin crawls at the thought of this (as maybe yours does) are perhaps the more 'creepy' among us... i hope you find instead that it is perfectly fine and generous to extend generosity toward children in this way.
when you have done these things, re-read your article and notice how ignorant and small it seems in light of true human complexity.

The high, breathy voice with the hyper-sincere tone was not his natural manner of speech. Reportedly, when he got mad or surprised, he manifested a "big deep voice." This suggests that the former, his public voice, was an affectation

>this is what the media reported, and it's a speculation. Evidence needs to be presented to suggest that Michael Jackson's high voice was an affection.

Not so, Michael Jackson's face, which resembled nothing in the actual human, living world. Moreover, it has seemed to me that there was something coherent about the redesign of his face—coherent, not normal—suggesting that there was method in his madness.

>many professionals agree that Michael Jackson suffered from Body Dismorphic Disorder. He always saw defects, especially his nose, in his appearance. He said during the interview he never looked at himself in the mirror. His scalp was severely burned during Pepsi commercial, and had vitiligo. If he indeed suffered from BDD, it is understandable why he had at least 13 plastic surgeries.

"I am Peter Pan," he said, more than once. He lived in Neverland. His second wife, Debbie Rowe, said that in order to get in the mood to have sex with her, Jackson dressed up as Peter Pan and danced around the bedroom. She said: "It made him feel romantic."

>this is also what the tabloid said. I doubt Michael Jackson had an intimate relationship with Debbie Rowe. They were probably good friends. Debbie said during the interview she offered to have his children. He didn't father them, but he is a father of these children after she gave up a sole custody. She gave these children to Michael as presents. (both Debbie and Michael said this during the interview)

Am I seriously suggesting that Michael Jackson was a homosexual autohebephile whose erotic goals included resembling Peter Pan and having sex with pubescent boys? I sure am.

>Once again, evidence needs to be presented to suggest that Michael Jackson was a homosexual autohebephile.

In some sense, he may have actually believed that he was a boy.
>Your theory and analysis are mere speculations. Michael Jackson probably felt he was a boy. He identified himself with pubscent boys. On a emotional level, he was a pubscent boy. That explains why he clicked with boys around that age than adults. Adults including his own father did him wrong and he didn't get normal childhood. He wanted to reexperience that normal childhood, and wanted to absorb that essences from these pubscent boys. However suggesting that he was sexually arosed by the thoughts of being a pubscent boy or engaging in sexual acts with them is a baseless assumption.

He also may have been sexually attracted to young boys, and if so, he probably molested at least one. His demons led him to do bizarre things that might still be comprehensible in light of my hypothesis. If any of us had been born with those demons, we might well have done the same or worse.

>we do not know if Michael Jackson was really attracted to young boys sexually. We place so much emphasis on sexuality nowadays. sexual deviation is considered the norm than asexuality. Also pedophiles do not moest once or a couple of times throughout thier lives. it is extremely difficult for them to supress thier urges, so they tend to molest minors repeatedly. If Michael Jackson was sexually aroused by boys, he probably molested these boys who shared the same bed with him many times. Considering his status as a celebrity, there was no way to get away with it, IF he really molested children. He was aquitted of all charges, and after interacting with thousands of children, only two came forward as victims. He certainly made poor choices for sharing the same bed. He set himself up for the recent allegations. But I doubt he actually molested any children. In his own mind, children-especially prepubscent boys are the only people, whom he could relate to. Because he was still at that stage emotionally. It's quite common for boys around that age to do sleepovers. So Michael continued to state sharing a bed is the most loving thing you can do. In his mind, there was nothing wrong with sleeping with children. Because he did not associate that with sexuality. once again this is also my assumption, and the only person who knows what really happened is Michael Jackson himself-or those who were really close to him. I feel he was judged harshly because of his unusual appearance and erratic behaviors. But we shouldn't forget his efforts and significant contributions to the charities, and he is the biggest humanitarian activist as a celebrity. He was a musical genius and is one of the best performers of all times. He is on the guiness world record for his contributions as an artist and humanitarian activist.

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Wow Diane Dimond and Online news, both lowlife tabloids used to substantiate an academic paper.Talk about crossing over lines.

amazingly, this professor wrote a research paper based on a tabloid report which later decleared to be false...

Yes a "scientist " pursues verifiable information and reports objectively. A pseudo- scientist uses the language of their chosen specialty and taints it with supposition and hearsay as well a dash of tabloid trash. Please don't confuse this nonsense with true research, if I had handed in research papers with these sources I wouldn't have even made it through undergrad.

Dear Mr. Bailey,
What an interesting theory, I guess it may be correct. I totally agree with you and I find your articles really coherent.
To myself, Michael Jackson may have been really sad at heart during all his life, because he knew he was not normal and he had no way to scape to himself or his inner feelings, just like nobody else can.
Considering his talent, and his level of genius, could it have been an excess of genius the reason of an erratic sexuality?
Aside from that, supposing he 'wanted' to be a boy aged 11-14 years, and he felt as if he was one, my theory is that maybe he felt no sexual desires at all, as in a kid of that frame of age hasn't developed a sexuality desire yet, so my questions are,
1- Could it be the case that Michael wanted to have friends of his 'mental' age with no other intention that sharing games and enjoying their company, with no sentimental or sexual issues involved? As in, does the average of pubescent kids know something about love or sex at all?
Do 'autohebephiles' have reached sexual maturity?
He was married twice but I can't imagine him having sex with a woman.
2- As for his physical appearance, it's clear to me that he didn't wanted to look like the adult man he was, but, if he wanted in some ways to look like a teen, or a pre-teen, why did he abused so much of make-up? Since Peter Pan didn't wear make-up, why did he appear to like so much to wear red lips, and those feminine hairdoes, and yet he didn't look really feminine or gay. Can a mixture of both 'autogynephilia' and 'autohebephilia' coexist in a person??
3- About the black appearance, I think he disagreed with his looks in the way he always wanted to be someone he wasn't. A sweet kid, a white person, Peter Pan. I can't imagine the high levels of wearing-out that this fact might have produced on his inside. Looking back at his early years, that was a time when he was a handsome black youngster with a wonderful smile, even with the big nose and the dark skin, he was very sweet. Do you think he may have also had an obsessive disorder -dysforia, surgical compulsions- a sort of OCD with made him wear an umbrella and a mask to avoid germs?? Not to mention his med addiction.

I feel sorry for him and yet I strongly believe he never did any harm to no kid.
Seems to me that Michael Jackson had no sign of sexual issues going on on his inside, just because he was a child inside. He might have suffered a lot and I feel pity for him.

Oh wow, this is article is absurd! It really makes me sad, that people are still writing absurd things about him, even after he is gone. It's so terrible, he had to live through all sorts of crazy assumptions like this when he was alive as well.

For one, Michael Jackson did not have plastic surgery to look like peter pan or whatever! He had plastic surgery because he was very self conscious about himself, especially his nose, because his father abused him and made fun of his nose, saying it was gross, big, ugly and abnormal. He was speculated to have body dysmorphic disorder, which can make a patient have excess plastic surgery, and they are never satisfied with the results, so they keep on having plastic surgery. (Also, he did not bleach his skin, that was another nasty rumor about him - he had vitiligo) He did NOT have plastic surgery to resemble a boy, or to resemble peter pan! He was not attracted to boys, and he did not molest boys. There was no proof, and in fact, those boys that where supposedly "molested" by Michael came out and said they accused him for the MONEY!

Michael Jackson was such a kind, caring person. He would never harm anyone, he loved children in a FATHERLY way! He was a normal person, and all these assumptions made about him are absolutely ridiculous, and it's terrible that people made, and keep making all these horrible assumptions about him. I'm so sick of people making assumptions about him!

RIP MJ, an amazing person, father, dancer, singer, and humanitarian. He was such a kind soul.

Have you ever thought he wanted to change himself for the sake of him??

What does it really matter??

Michael Jackson had part of his ear removed to help reconstruct his nose not to make his ears look like Peter Pan. I think all Michael Jackson's sexual energy was spent in dancing and having sex with the audience. I think he changed his face and appearance like actors change costumes to enter a new phase of his entertainment career. I think he wanted attention more badly than anything else in the world and would do anything to get it even shock people with statements like I sleep in a hyperbaric chamber, I share my bed with boys, and the 2nd half of the black and white video that was very sexual in nature. I think his case does not apply to most people because I think he liked spending time with children because they were the only people who didn't want something from him and accepted him like he was. I think the chances of him being a schizophrenic are greater than an erotic identify disorder which I kinda think sounds a bit made up.

PSS I also think MIchael Jackson was incredibly naive and too trusting of other people because he was sheltered from the world when he was growing up. He thought everyone had a pure heart like he did. He was incredibly shy as well. I think you would diagnose Jesus with erotic identity disorder if he were living today because of the loving way he related to children. You should watch Fox 2003 Michael Jackson Private Home Movies on your tube. There are several parts showing occasions of him playing with his boy nephews, cousins and Mac Caulken and you can see that he is a 11 year old at heart. They are running around with super soakers, throwing each other in the pool, having Easter egg hunts, and having a food fight with John Landis on the set of Black and White. You can see in his eyes that he is a totally innocent spirit. MJ was not the performer you see on stage. His real personality was totally different. Steven Spielberg said MJ was like Bambi in a forest fire and that MJ liked to talk to ET. He had a huge interest in Disney characters, in fantasy and magic.I read that a psychiatrist at the trial found that he had arrested development and was actually at the level of an 11 year old which would account for his financial problems. His accusers had dads who were jealous that their sons were closer to MIchael than to them and they were after his money. According to Fox News, the dad from the trial hit his son with a 12 pound weight and tried to strangle the boy in 2006. The boy took out a restraining order against his own dad. Michael Jackson was only guilty of being too nice to the wrong people. I think he was the victim of homophobia and a pedophile witch hunt which is what ultimately killed him. If he looked like Brad Pitt no one would ever have questioned his motives. Only the US public ever believed these allegations. The rest of the world never doubted him. We killed an innocent man.

The Private Home Movies are amazing. He was nice and happy at times, he seemed very funny and he liked laughter and games. He seemed to be really friendly and got many friends. He wasn't so lonely, after all.
The best MJ looks are those in the Bad Tour but until Remember the Time. Afterwards it all seemed to plummet.
And I have to wonder, Why did he had to keep on touching his face? At some point he was really beautiful, really attractive, he was even cute with the pointed nose. Why did noone stop him?
Seems to me he had lots of issues going on inside of his head, he was a creative character, a restless brain.
But still, I can't help feeling sad about him because he couldn't find the strength nor the power to feel good with himself and his appearance, which invariably led to addictions, voids, and unability to have a partner.
And in the end, you can't go on blaming fathers, family, childhood or people, because at the end of the day, the management of the problems is each one's bussiness.
Still, if only he had found one partner -man or woman-, one only person who could have advised him in a caring, loving way, someone he could trust, someone he could lean on, someone he actually was truly in love with, things would have changed for Michael Jackson.
I am sorry for him and the way he died, I wish things would have been different for him. He knew lots of people liked him whilst others hated him, same way Madonna or Beckham are loved and hated. People's moods are unpredictable.

The best thing that could have ever happen to Michael Jackson is to love and to be loved in return. Just to have one lover who could kiss him and tell to him 'honey, don't spoil your face anymore, you are okay the way you are.'

I very much doubt that he was intending to act like a "non threatening black male". He was probably just very religious.

What a big piece of shit. Some fool who never met MJ throwing big words around trying to pass off as some sort of expert. Hahahahahahaha, It made my day, I'm ROTFLMAO....Thanks for the joke!

Dr. Bailey,

You said he would have had a great sense of shame due to hepophilia. But on his 1995 CD he wa seething at the media, DA, extortionist, etc.. Of course he could be pretending, but it is unlikely since he was an artist and always felt his music was written by a higher power and dropped in his lap. But I still think he molested children, all the major networks were of the same opinion, they all can't be lying.

Also how do you explain this loneliness of his? What was he lonely for? I have a theory. I think it was love and need to be understood. But who could understand MJ he was so different!

How about

J. Michael Bailey: Bigoted Quack With Ties To Neo-Nazi "Race Scientists"

Maybe someone can come up with a name for that disorder...

To the poster above (Chinchilla), I have seen many of MJ's concert performances, I have seen what looked like an erection after an overzealous girl who was slow dancing with him during "You are not alone" I think that was the song, put her cheek up against his crotch and wrapped her arms around him because she did not want to leave him (I really think that what happened was innocent, when she realized what was happening she backed off.) MJ had a normal male reaction to this by getting what looked to be an erection. I have not seen any footage of him french kissing fans onstage however. What tour did this occur on?, I'm going to have to look into this. Also, the people who think that he was a castrati, there is no way a man could dance the way that man danced if they didn't have hormones raging through their systems. He was obviously dancing with the intent of turning people on and he did a really good job doing so imo. Talk about getting a thrill watching someone dance. I never saw anything like this man dancing. What an entertainer. He also told the rabbi that he did concert tours because he wanted to be loved. Well, from what I've seen at his concerts from dvd footage is that people pretty much went nuts when he was on stage performing for them and hell, yeah they loved him. He seemed to have been born to be onstage performing, he loved getting all that adulation from his fans. He told his fans he loved them, he loved them more, he loved them most, etc., etc. It's pretty obvious that he wanted the love from his fans that his father never gave him imo.
He took his fans really seriously, went out of his way to hug them when he was in public, seemed to get energized by them and needed them. Also, the incident back in 2002/2003 where he dangled his son "Blanket" in Berlin from a hotel balcony was a reaction to his fans below screaming for him. Mike seemed to get totally carried away, I don't believe he was trying to harm his child. He used very poor judgment in that case. He was overexcited by his fan's presence and he reacted to them like a teenage boy would and did something stupid which he later regretted. The media made it seem like he was trying to throw the kid off the balcony. I saw no such thing. Watching that footage I sometimes wonder if MJ had very high function asperger's syndrome or some other disorder along those lines, he did not seem to be able to form adult relationships, he was very impulsive. He also went on an impulse buying shopping spree in Vegas. I have also seen an unauthorized interview with him where he spontaneously breaks into song and sings, "I'm Peter Pan, I can do anything" while standing on a fountain at his Encino home in 1984 or around that time. He seemed very immature for a 25 year old man.

. During his trial, he always would turn to wave to his fans that were at his trial daily supporting him. (I have never seen such committed fans in my life.) These "true fans" were there for him every day, yelling encouraging things to him such as "fight Michael, fight" and "Michael's innocent". At the end of the trial when he was acquitted he looked totally destroyed. Which was much different than the way OJ looked after he was acquitted (OJ was all smiles, didn't lose any weight, didn't look overly stressed out). Poor Michael looked like he was a broken man at the end of his 2005 trial. Compare him to Scott Peterson (who murdered his wife and unborn baby, he looked like he could care less). Would a man who was guilty of these crimes look so totally destroyed even though he was acquitted? MJ was never the same after that trial. His name was tarnished forever. He probably died of a broken heart.

I really have sympathy for this man since he died so tragically, I sincerely hope his kids are okay. I think about him and his kids everyday. His story has really touched my heart. I want to believe so much that he is totally innocent of all of the garbage that was thrown at him. His music is amazing, I discover new music (new to me anyway) posted in loving tributes to him on youtube. I never dreamed this man was so talented. I am amazed at his body of work. I'll never forget Michael Jackson. He has definitely left his mark on this world.

@Anonymous 3 (not verified) | 10/20/09 | 08:17 AM

You asked for the footage of MJ french kissing a fan- so here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZd3Nq_fh0A&feature=related

MJ also had plenty of erections while on the History tour- here's that too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCfm9RCM09A

However; I have a suspicious feeling that something untoward took place with Jordan Chandler and Jason Francia. Of course I cannot definitively confirm this, but it makes sense. I don't know if it was sexual, but it was weird enough. I am a realise: I do not buy into tabloids about him being chemically castrated, but MJJ had a fixation on little kids particularly boys. Now, maybe he only "slept" with boys because he thought it might look inappropiate for a grown man to be "sleeping" with a little girl. Now there's food for thought.

To Chinchilla:

- what are you getting at by saying the 'erections in concert' stuff? I mean, what's the point? How can you be sure that this bundles are erections and not 'normal position'? And even if you are right, the golden trousers he is wearing are smooth and soft and tight and he is dancing, god' sake, he is working.
Just the fact that someone is noticing this and searching for erections, it's insane.

- EVEN IF MJ had slept and made love with those boys, which I don't know -and neither do you-, have you ever stopped to think that maybe the boys agreed with it? what if they were in an agreed real relationship and they both loved each other? I'm sure there was no harm intended. How can you compare that to some pedophile who walks down the street looking for victims to rape them? How is it the same?
And for the record, I'm not supporting the case, I'm just trying to understand.
I don't think MJ was a bad person at all. He was very weird but not eviled.

To Chinchilla again,
thanks for your answer. Well, how do you know MJ was heterosexual? I don't think so. Something in his looks and manners told that he wasn't. I think he felt attraction for boys but I don't know what kind of attraction, maybe it wasn't something sexual at all, as he claimed. If he had done something wrong to the boys, he wouldn't have stood in a trial. He would have just paid for silence, and he didn't do such a thing. And he was acquited and found innocent.

As for 'where there's smoke there's fire', sometimes you can say that, while others you can't.
The thing is we can keep on guessing and guessing but we'll never know the man, or the truth. Maybe one day the kids themselves will tell in some book what really happened, but even then, we'll never know if they'll be lying, so....
What's the point??
The point is, and I'm telling you now, the important thing about MJ is his voice and the musical legacy he left us, brilliant songs and brilliant concerts where we can see the real man, from his very early years thru his latest times.
And I see a gifted dancer, and a real ententainer. That's what really matters, isn't it?
People is not always caring and loving and they try to hurt other people, sometimes for sport and sometimes for money; you can take a test yourself: go anywhere, there will always be someone who will try to be unpolite with you. So imagine, if they also are envious and greedy, they can say terrible things just to see you fall from your status.
Think it over.

"The thing is we can keep on guessing and guessing but we'll never know the man, or the truth."
Of course we will know the truth the truth always comes out. A key to understanding Michael Jackson is reading the lyrics of his music, keeping in mind when they were written. I think the truth is already out there, it is just up to a clever, dilegent person to put all the pieces together.

Michael Jackson was NOT gay, not even close. Here's one of the videos that makes it difficult to dispute... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOUGpKjEcgo He was also NOT a pedophile. You cannot judge this man by any normal societal standards...he had a life like no one else on this earth from the age of 5 to 50. He was uniquely sensitive to sick and deprived children's pain and suffering because he wasn't given the chance to enjoy a childhood. He loved their innocence and non-judging nature. Two children accused him, out of the hundreds that spent time at Neverland. Sneddon tried everything in his power to get just one child to corroborate the accuser's stories, and he couldn't find any out of all the kids he flew around the world to find and interview, using bully and scare tactics I might add. The families of both accusers were greedy extortionists, plain and simple...it isn't hard to see that if you actually take the time to look. I can't even imagine being accused of a crime that horrible and not being able to prove your innocence. How do you prove nothing happened? There was no evidence of anything untoward but the media crucified him anyway. It haunted him until the day he died. What a terribly sad ending to a pure hearted soul that wanted nothing more than to please people and make the world a better place.

If you want to hear the other side of the story, which the biased media never reported, read Aphrodite Jones book, "Conspiracy", or the GQ article "Framed" for the truth... http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/gq-article-was-michael-jackson-...

Lisa Marie Presley has said many times that she and MJ had a normal sexual relationship. She's not the type to mince words or lie. Their marriage wasn't a sham...they actually loved each other. But because of his upbringing I do think he had a different idea of sex than most men. I also think that's what makes his fans love him so much. He was a different cat, that's for sure. Not a bad thing though...far from it.

Michael's marrige to LMP was a "business arrangement"? Are you seriously buying that? LMP did not need that kind of "business arrangement", she did not need the money, she had PLENTY of her own. More to the point if he wanted a business arrangement, and a make-believe wife he could have married Debbie Rowe in 1994, and inseminated her back then.

"Why not sexual with women?" I've covered that ground already.

I appreciate your comment because you have obviously researched his life before jumping to any conclusions. But to think he is autistic or developmentally delayed is quite ridiculous. He was extremely well spoken in most interviews I've seen of him. Considering how shy and private he was, and the way his father speaks, I am always amazed at how intelligent and insightful he comes across. He was most definitely a genius in many ways, which tends to make a person eccentric as it is. But he also had an unbelievably unconventional upbringing that none of us could possibly comprehend, so you cannot hold him to any standard of normalcy in the way we understand it. I've posted an older video below that demonstrates he was perfectly capable of handling an interview.

There are 2 parts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRY8HAhodXg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgp9EFBE8MQ&NR=1

From everything I've researched over the years, I only see an exceptional, sensitive, and gifted man that was sadly and grievously misunderstood. It's a shame some people, like these pseudo-scientists, are still writing tabloid-like articles to try and tear him down, even after death.

I'm the poster anonymous above.
I got one question. I read the Randy Taraborrelli book. It says that many families with children spent time in Neverland with him, and lots of children sleptover with him. Only 2 of these kids sued him, apparently as an extorsion.
But none of the other kids who were friends with Michael have come out publicly to say nothing bad about him.

If MJ had abused of children, lots of them would have come out saying so.
Don't you agree?