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By Ayad Gharbawi | March 24th 2009 12:06 PM | 12 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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About Ayad Gharbawi

BA degree from Tufts University, Boston, Massachusetts, USA. BA Degree in History. 1987-89: MA degree from Boston University, Boston, Mass. USA. MA Degree in International Relations. 1991: Graduate... Full Bio

In this study, I will propose, that the relationship between Mind and Vision can enable us to draw certain conclusions relevant to one aspect of what constitutes the Mind, and therefrom, we may seek a better understanding of what the 'I', or the 'Self' is. In seeking such an understanding, I have sought to increase our understanding of the issues we shall discuss, by employing novel mathematical and logic symbols. This will be of fundamental importance to my thesis, not only because I am using novel notations and symbols, but because the latter will enable us to clarify and speed up our understanding of the subject matter.



I will propose, that just as it was necessary for G.Boole to create a new symbolic language in order to uncover an existing 'reality', so too, we need to seek another viewpoint from which we can analyze this particular study I am presenting – and that has necessitated the establishment of novel symbols with new meanings.



What I seek to do in this paper is this: to establish the salient characteristics of the relationship between Mind and Vision; it will be proposed that these characteristics possess an inherently abstract quality. It ought to be immediately stated that the concept of the 'abstract' will be fundamentally and extremely important in our study.  



Further, I seek to employ this relationship and interaction between Mind and Vision, by creating a clearer understanding of what Mind and Vision are, and that, in turn, we will allow us a closer inspection of what the 'Self' is.



I would like to add, that this manuscript is the beginning of my proposals – in other words, there is a lot more work that I have done, with respect to this subject. And so, I have necessarily restricted myself, to discussing only the introductory concepts in this study.



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1.    ANALYSIS OF VISION




In this part of the study, I shall attempt to explain how Vision is of critical importance if we seek to understand what Mind is. We shall see that the very abstractness of Vision is, in itself, a contributing factor to the overall recognition of what Mind is.



To begin our understanding of what I call the 'elusive' quality of Vision is, I shall pose a simple question: When we are seeing an object, (let us say, a flower), what do we actually 'see'? I shall propose that what we are seeing is an 'Abstract Image' of that object.  I will now explain why I use the terms 'Abstract Vision'. I deliberately use the term 'Image' because our visual perception of any observed object is dependent on the differing anatomical differences and the differing optical accuracy of the observer. Thus, if we allow a bee, an eagle, a human and a worm to see our object, (the flower), they will all 'see' different 'images' of the same object. Therefore, the one observed object has an unlimited number of differing 'images', and all these differing images contradict each other, since, to use our example, what the bee 'sees' will not be what the worm 'sees', and so on. That is why I use the term 'Image'. There is no 'one' 'real' image of the flower. Observers can only see 'Images' and these Images are all different from other observers. The reason why I use the term 'Abstract' will be more difficult to explain. I propose that when we see any object, we are seeing a collection, an amalgamation, or a collection of nothingnesses. Let me suggest this much: focus on any object (our flower, for example). Now, your Mind can relate to, recognize what he/she is seeing; that is, the Observer – or, the 'Self' or the 'I' -  can state that he/she is seeing a flower.  Next, focus on one specific point on the flower, and try to think of nothing else, and try to observe nothing else except at this particular point on the flower. Now, try to 'define' for yourself what it is you are actually seeing within this point on the flower. You will find, try as you may, that you cannot observe anything. You are seeing a 'nothingness'. As hard as you may concentrate; as focused as you can be – your Vision will not 'see' anything that is visible, perceptible or recognizable to your Mind. Can we ever say, with any precision, what it is we 'see' when we focus on one point on an object? I propose, that when we focus our mind on one point on the Observed Object, (hereafter referred to as 'OO'), and we do not allow our mind to think of anything else except on that point on the (OO), we 'see' a 'nothingness'. By 'nothingness', I mean that our Mind cannot relate to, or recognize anything within the boundaries of the observed point. Furthermore, it is precisely this nothingness which ultimately generates the 'whole' vision of the OO. It is for this reason that I use the term 'Abstract' in describing Vision.  Now, we must elaborate on what we mean by 'Abstract', because the concept of the Abstract will play such a fundamentally important part in our thesis.  By using the latter term - the 'Abstract' - I mean any perceived object that is indefinable, indescribable, immeasurable, elusive, hazy, formless, blurred, and perhaps most importantly; 'Abstract' means anything for which our Mind simply cannot 'see', relate to, recognize or comprehend in any meaningful manner. All objects are made up of an unrecognizable, indefinable 'number' of nothingnesses. When an Observer (hereafter referred to as 'Ob') looks at a particular point, or at a Focused Observed Point, (hereafter referred to as 'FOP'), on an (OO), an Abstraction of Vision will necessarily occur, because what the (Ob) sees is in the (FOP) is a nothingness – or nothing that he/she can relate to, precisely because the constituents of any object vis-à-vis Mind and Vision is made up of nothingnesses, or abstractions. Therefore, Vision becomes irrelevant in relation to the Observed Point, because there is no meaningful connection between Mind and the (FOP).  It is irrelevant to Mind precisely because of the attributes of the (FOP) – these attributes being Abstract. If Vision is to be understood as the recognition by (Ob) vis-à-vis the (OO), then the (FOP), due to its abstract qualities, can have no functional relationship to Mind. This said, we can now turn to our original question, concerning 'what' it is that we 'see' when we are focusing on an object – the bird. Let us now say this: let us look at a blank piece of white paper; now, we may see shadows resulting from contours and the texture of the paper. Let us assume that the paper has no contours, no shadows and its texture is so plain that the colour white is utterly uniform and without variations in hues. Let us say we completely focus our looking on this piece of paper. What exactly do we 'see'? I propose, that when we focus on one particular point on this paper, we shall 'see' a 'nothing'. Why? Because there does not exist any 'point' or 'area' on that paper, wherefrom our Mind can 'see' anything, or our Mind can relate to, recognize or comprehend as being anything meaningful. From here, evolves our meaning of 'nothingness', when we discuss Vision. This 'nothingness' can be appreciated by simply trying, again and again to focus on any one particular point on the paper – and we shall get the same results: nothingness. However, since the surroundings around the Observer (including the body of the Observer him/herself) will inevitably be 'seen' by the Observer, and since these sights and sounds will inevitably distract the Observer from a complete focusing on the Observed Object, we must, therefore, take our experiment one step further.   Let us now assume that, by some method, we are unable to see our body or any other object in our surroundings. Let us assume that we are in a white coloured universe, (or any other colour will do), and we have only our eyeballs and this 'universe' that surrounds us with its uniform colour, with no contours or variations in hue, and therefore, there are no contrasts in the colour of this universe. We now ask our Observer to focus at any one point in this universe and we ask the Observer: what do you 'see'? I propose that no Observer, in these circumstances, will be able to focus on any point in this universe, and be able to 'see' anything. The Observer will see nothingness or a void. Wherever the Observer will try to 'see', he/she will get no result. A multitude of voids, or nothingnesses. Why? Because the constituents of Vision are, as we have said, Abstract. The essence, or the constituents of any perceived Object, is made of abstractions – or nothingnesses. When seeing an Object, we are seeing the totality, or the sum total of these nothingnesses that ultimately 'create' the recognizable and meaningful whole. Therefore, a multitude of nothingnesses or abstractions ultimately create Vision.Abstract Vision is similar, in a way, to the properties of the electron as defined by Quantum Physics. The constituents of Vision are not unlike what Heisenberg, Bohr and Schrodinger perceived the 'reality' of the electron to be. Just as the electron cannot be fully visualized, described, or defined, so too, the constituents of Vision are abstractions that no human can optically relate to in a functionally perceptible and meaningful sense. And so, we come to the paradox and the seeming illogicality of Vision: for Vision is made up of indefinable, unobservable, unrecognizable 'parts', and yet, it is precisely these unobservable voids that ultimately we come to 'see' an image that our Mind can recognize and relate to. In other words, a multitude of nothingnesses ultimately create perceptible, meaningful Vision. Let us elaborate on this 'nothingness' I am talking about.  The perceived 'whole' of any object makes sense to the observer – that is, the observer can relate to it. The observer can say, "I am looking at a flower". However, the constituents can only be defined as 'abstract' because they cannot be 'seen' in the first place. It should be noted here, that words or terms such as 'components', or 'constituents' are misleading, since there are no neat, cut and dry 'components' or 'points' to speak of. These terms are, at best, the most accurate terms in the linguistic sense. We can, therefore, speak of a vague, indefinable, unrecognizable, shadowy 'point', or 'area' that the person can focus on, and it is the summation of these 'points' and/or 'areas' that create the final recognizable object that is being seen.We now turn our attention to another aspect of Vision vis-à-vis the Mind. When we are not looking at anything, and when we are not thinking or imagining anything – what, in that circumstance, do we 'see'? Let us take this example: when one is being vacant minded, or is momentarily blanking out – and we all experience this situation from time to time – what do we 'see' in that situation? Now, I have deliberately chosen this example, because when we daydream, we are still seeing images in our minds; and, when we dream, we see the dream itself. There are times, however, when we are awake, and our Mind and Vision see nothing – no Observed Objects and no Images. Our Mind is being vacant or blanking out.Now, I propose, that when we do 'blank out', the Vision we 'see' is the exact same as the Vision we 'see' when we concentrate and focus at one particular point on an object or, the Observed Object (OO). In other words, the results reveal that the person who has momentarily 'blanked out', sees exactly the same as the Observer who is focusing at one particular point on an Object. Once again, we can say that Vision, in both cases, becomes imperceptible, unrecognizable – and, ultimately Vision, in both circumstances, becomes a nothingness.*  *  *  *  *  *    

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logicman's picture
This is a 'step-back' idea about how the mind works.  Unfortunately its an old idea in philosophy and cognitive science.  It is well known that the brain/nervous system/perception system filters out most of what we might otherwise see in the environment.  But not all of the 'how' of it has been covered, not by a long chalk.

Here is an experiment anyone can do, but only by concentrating fiercely.  It is exceedingly hard to hold the eye and head still so as to fixate on a point.  Even harder in a moving train, where I first tried it as a teen.

Take a piece of coloured chequered material.  Focus on one specific point.  Relax the focus of the eyes whilst holding them perfectly still.  Things start to disappear in a logical sequence.  For me, first the colour goes, then the horizontal components and then the vertical.  As soon as the whole field of vision is blurry and grey my eyes snap back into focus.

This could be the perfect experiment for people who like to torture other people by fixing their heads and eyes in clamps.  I believe they are called psychologists.

Ayad:  I can see 'something' behind your words, but it should be in plain sight.
May I suggest you get some help in laying out your ideas in a much more modular way?  Break it into chunks, then thread them together so that they hang together.

'Hanging together' is called 'coherence' - except as applied to friends in a bar,
when it is most often seen as its mirror: incoherence. :)

ayad's picture
Dear Patrick;

The problem with my article is that the notations and symbols do NOT appear on this website; no do the equations which are of a fundamental importance in CLARIFYING my work.

Now when you look at a sheet of paper and and you focus on it and at one point and you you have nothing else in your mind; then I propose that you see a 'nothingness'. I'm assuming the paper has no texture, differing hues, no shadows, no contours etc. As you write, "Things start to disappear in logical sequence'". But then you add, soon your "eyes snap back into focus". Yes, you're right. But in my experiment I'm arguining that the Observer keeps staring at any one point that has no shades and continues trying to 'see' anything. As long as Observer continues staring at this one point (with nothing else in his/her mind) then Observer will be forced to admit that he/she are actually seeing 'nothing'.

Next, when you daydream, or you are deeply thinking of a memory and there is absolutely nothing else n your mind during the time frame when your mind is involved in the latter activity - then, I argue that your Mind becomes AS ONE with the vision or memory that you are thinking or visualising. Here the entire physicality of the Observer ceases as the entire Physicality of Observer becomes as one with the Observed subject. Again, if I could use my equations - like Boole did - my argument would be much more clarified!

Another unrelated point: all respectable websites, newspapers, books do not allow the use of foul, indecent language. Why does this website allow some commentators to use language that should be inadmissable? Or, maybe I am wrong, and this website believes that anyone has the right to use foul language.

Thanks;

Ayad

Gerhard Adam's picture
You're jumping to unwarranted conclusions.  In effect, you're confusing the lack of conscious awareness with "nothingness". 

"Here the entire physicality of the Observer ceases as the entire Physicality of Observer becomes as one with the Observed subject."

What does this even mean?  You're suggesting a physical transformation (which we know doesn't occur because that would be a measurable event) and hedging your bet by using a phrase like "becomes as one", which suggests that it isn't really happening.

Either something happens or it doesn't.  This sounds almost mystical and unless this is tightened up, there isn't anything your equations can say to clarify that position.

ayad's picture
Dear Gerard;

I'm not saying lack of conscious awareness = nothingness.

The physicality of Oberver ceases to exist only when Observer in entirely (ie. Awareness Factor is 100%) thinking or vsualising the Observed Object or the Observed Image. During the time when Observer is completely thinking/visualsing the Observed Object/Image then Observer's mind ceases to exist - except in sofar as the mind of Observer is the same as the Observed Image or Thought. Mind becomes as one, or the same as what is being observed. Therefore, since Mind has become the Observed Image or Thought, then the physicality of Observer (all his other bodily and mental functions/sensations) cease to exist except - as I say, with respect to Observed Object or Image or Thought.

So, let's say Observer is visualising a flower and let us say Observer (hereafter referred to as 'O'') is so engrossed with the Observed Image (or 'OI') that he has absolutely nothing welse on his mind. He is only and completely and totally spending his time by visualising the OI - or the flower, in our example. Now I am arguining that O during the time when he is only concentrating on the OI ceases to exist as a physical being. Physicality ceases. The O = OI. The Observer becomes exactly as one with OI - therefore, just as he no longer senses or relates to his body, so too, his Mind ceases to function in any way, except insofar as his visualising the flower, or the OI.

Therefore, the existence, or the reality of the erson, or the Self can become as one with the Observed Image. That means, my existence, relaity, or my sense of myself, or the 'I' can become nothing except as per what the mind is concentrating on.

Next, if the O is in a 'blank'; thinking of nothing at all. Daydreaming without any thoughts or images. What happens to the Mind of O here? Since, O is concentrating on nothing at all, then Observer's Mind becomes equaly a blank. Equally, Observers's physicality and Mind will become exactly as the contents of his daydreaming = nothing.

Therefore, Observer's physicality, or reality and his mind will cease to function or exist with respect to the Observer.

Ayad

logicman's picture
Either something happens or it doesn't.  This sounds almost mystical
and unless this is tightened up, there isn't anything your equations
can say to clarify that position.

I have to agree.

Ayad:  taking your last point first.  Censorship and free speech can never be in perfect equilibrium.  They may appear to be antagonistic, but so are the very muscle groups in our own bodies.  What one person sees as merely flippant, another sees as rude.
"But words are words, I never yet did hear,
that the bruis-ed heart, was pierc-ed through the ear."

Shakespeare.


Yes, vision is abstract, and the neurons in the eye-brain interface perform abstractions.  Then there is the problem of mental focus / consciousness / awareness.  (What reality do we mean by these words?)  Psychological / biological studies show that if the saccades of the eye are stopped, and the head fixed, nothing can be seen.  Neural processing seems not to occur.

In examing the topic of vision as it relates to human understanding - the mind, if you like - it is all too easy to overlook the critical importance of the other faculties.  In my submission, visual processing may well be performed by a cluster of neurons, just as by a computer.  But our understanding of what is seen can never be purely visual.  In a meld with vision, the haptic sense tends to cover the near portion of our mental model, and the aural sense covers the far.  There is a moderate input from the skin receptors, we can assign vectors to heat and wind for example.  Proprioperception puts an 'I' slap-bang in the centre of this multi-part model.  The haptic-aural-visual-propriocetive self-in space model with a supervisory 'I' or ego is a model I find useful.  It may, or may not, have any reality in the brain.


The above is really just an 'aside' to your writing.  I put this potted version here in the hope that you - or others -  may find some use or stimulation of ideas in it.   It is a very small part of a work in progress on the application to robotics of publicly available findings in human cognition.


There is a nautical expression: "I get your drift".  The ship's wake is highly visible and obvious.  But a trained observer can determine from that pattern the sideways motion of a ship caused by wind and current.  It is in that sense that I think that I see where you are coming from.  I look forward to seeing where you are going with this.

Steve Davis's picture
anyone has the right to use foul language?
I tend to agree with Ayad on this Hank, it was unnecessary, and disrespectful not only to a writer trying to get a discussion going, but also to the site.


Hank's picture
Sure, I am inclined to be nice (as are you) and some people are downright harsh but that is what makes up a diverse community; if someone new wants to dive in with prominent researchers and a smart audience and not bother to format their article (this was just copied and pasted from a document and didn't even merit a preview button before submitting) or just speculate about a real subject they're going to get creamed.   

We're the only 'open' community like this, where anyone can sign up and write good science and be in the company of outstanding researchers, but people should read some articles first before they post their own.  We're not Blogger or Wordpress, where people can just make stuff up, the audience expects a level of quality and fights to protect it.    I think, overall, the community is a pretty good indicator.  

No one pulled this blog but the audience can certainly criticize it if they feel like valuable real estate on our front page is a waste of their time and this did not show much effort beyond copying and pasting some stuff that seems made up.  Respect goes both ways; when you write things you put a lot of time into it and new people should do that as well.  If they don't, I am glad readers care if something isn't high quality.

Can you put that in everyday English? Who the hell uses the word "wherefrom"?

rholley's picture
 Who the hell uses the word "wherefrom"? 

I consider that question offensive.  Perhaps we should send the Kroopaks after you, or at least after your computer.

Nevertheless, loss of such words, others like it being hence, whence, etc., makes written English somewhat more clumsy for scientific argument.

Moreover, Robert Schoenfeld, in The Chemist's English, remarks that the loss of the usage "the which", which points to a situation as distinct from a concrete thing, has not helped clarity.




 



Hi,
I am trying to find out information about how our vision conveys images and information to our brain. The specifics of how our sight transmits images to our mind which then stores it as mental images and memory. I would like this from a source that is understandable in layman's terms. If anyone can help me out about information for this I would be grateful.

Thank you,
Doug
Didymous2001@yahoo.com

ayad's picture
Dear Doug;

I urge to see my website - www.ayad-mind.com&go to Consciousness Studies.

Take care;

Ayad

Thank you Ayad.

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