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By James Hawkins | July 15th 2009 10:06 AM | 14 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments
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James is an accomplished entrepreneur, inventor, portfolio manager, financial advisor, and author, but alas, not a scientist. However, he is a reasonably smart guy that is interested in science... Full Bio

Watching the Jackson debacle has me asking questions about his unusual lifestyle.  At first, it simply seemed sad that someone with so much talent has so many inner demons.  But I soon began wondering, could he have been the same without the freakishness that went with it?



His father Joe seems to be where it begins, perhaps at the genetic level.  When you realize what he “accomplished” with his young children, it becomes apparent that, good or bad, he is not ordinary guy.  On the weird side, when asked, as he was entering the BET music awards about Michael’s death (only a couple of days after Michael had died), he soon began talking about big things to come, seemingly more interested at that moment in the business that would be coming because of Michael's death.  Watch the video on YouTube.  He might have been in shock, but I fear this is not the explanation.  I think he is just weird, freakishly so.



Perhaps Michael is like a child raised by a machine, lacking the personal relationships others take for granted.  Imagine, from a very young age Michael was a superstar.  Thus, from this young age, encompassing his entire memory of life by the time he became an adult, everyone that was friendly with Michael had an agenda.  At some level within he had to know this.  Worse yet, sadly, it seems that his father was on this same list.  He did not have a dad; he had an agent.  As a father, I find this painful to imagine for a child.



It seems reasonable to speculate that this sterile way of growing up would lead someone to find a way to get people to like them.  In Michael’s case, this may have been the source of freakish entertainment genius.  James Lipton, in his Inside the Actor’s Studio, likes to highlight how many of his guests come from broken homes, implying that it is their thirst for attention that leads them to the entertainment business.  Could Michael Jackson simply be a supercharged version of this?



I don’t know how this might explain his childlike characteristics, but at least feel like it could be related.  The presence of such freakish talent with such a unique way of growing up would seem to potentially be related to his unusual way of living, whether it cause him to desire to be Peter Pan, as Professor J. Michael Bailey speculates in his article “Michael Jackson: Erotic Identify Disorder,” or is instead some innocent (or not) combination of clueless and preference.



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I believe it is more likely he was a CASTRATO.......Look it up, it answers alot of questions.

The big question is whether Joe Jackson had Michael castrated, if Michael is indeed castrato. There is a fairly good article within this site that discusses the plausibility of him being so.

Ready to get uncomfortable? Check out the video above with Joe Jackson speaking as he enters the BET Music Awards just a couple of days following Michael's death. Let the creepiness sink in. Then read the aforementioned fellow blogger Farmer's article Michael Jackson: The Castrato? Comparing Jackson to a great singer of the past who was. Does the combination of these lead you to horrific suspicions?

The autopsy report, when released, has the potential of being truly explosive.

Also, hormones are related to sleeping. As a postmenopausal woman, I have been advisted that progesterone will help me sleep, which I have also found to be true. The bottle says that it could also be useful to men who have sleep problems. Do castrati all have sleep problems?

I find the idea that Michael Jackson was castrated by his father to be quite ridiculous, watch some of his concerts, his "manhood" is clearly visible in some of those tight outfits he wore. Especially the ones where he is wearing gold pants. I would even go as far as to say he appears to be getting a boner in some of those concerts. Sorry if I grossed anyone out. Also, his ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley said that they had had sex. So unless she writes a book stating otherwise, or it's in an official autopsy report, I am not about to believe otherwise.

What one sees through pants could easily be a prosthesis. Drugs and implants can achieve erection for people unable to perform. Also, what is sex? Many people have different definitions, see e.g. the Clinton/Lewinsky debate.

Moreover, historically, there were reports of castrati having sex. People tend to doubt the veracity of such reports, but maybe they were true. I am the mother of 2 sons. One of them had frequent erections before puberty, even as a toddler, and one did not. The pediatrician told me that both experiences were normal. My mother reported to me that my brother had erections even at age 2 when interacting with me when I was 4 -- that she came in when we were bumping tummies and I was laughing out loud whenever he went up. I don't remember this, but this is what she told me. I have also spoken with men who told me that they were able to achieve some limited form of orgasm through masturbation many years before reaching puberty. I don't think that we really know much factually about the sexuality of castrati.

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The observation that castrati may have sleeping problems due to their hormones is intriguing.  Can anyone speak to this?


As for the comment that Presley states her and Michael had sex, isn't her marriage to him widely considered a sham?  Why would we then give much if any credibility to her statements about their sex life?


Finally, the suggestion that Michael Jackson seems to have an erection in concerts would seem to suggest that this was instead a prosthesis, as a reader suggests above.  The idea that a man would get a boner while physically exerting himself on stage is seemingly not so realistic.  I don't, however, believe this says too much about anything other than his outfits are more "detailed" than one initially realizes.



Your comment:"The idea that a man would get a boner while physically exerting himself on stage is seemingly not so realistic. ", isn't so.
I have been involved over the years in the music industry, and have several friends who are musicians who have all said, it it absolutely NOT unusual for a man to achieve an erection when physically active (dancing or really involved in singing) while on stage. Several times I'd hear others talk about another performer while on stage and laughing about it. They just get wound up in the moment..

If you look at wikipedia at the article about the last castrato, there is a picture of him as an older person and he certainly looks like he has bags under his eyes, which could indicate a sleeping disorder, though it could just be aging.

I have always regarded the castrati tradition as horrifying, but when I look at videos of Michael Jackson and realize the magnitude of what this operation (or child abuse) might have achieved, I realize that those historical Italians might have been neither so crazy nor so cruel as I might have imagined. What would Michael Jackson have been as an ordinary male singer? Surely not the worldwide sensation he became. What would the world have been with Michael Jackson as an ordinary high school music teacher, for instance? Surely a lesser place. It makes me rethink my ideas of morality and the meaning of a life.

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You're suggesting that being castrated is a reasonable trade for being a successful musician?  Talk about a deal with the devil... Wow.  I guess, however, one could say it is akin to the athletes that shoot up with steroids for their athletic success while doing irreversible damage to their bodies.  The difference would be that at least they are doing it to themselves.



Michael has a hard on in his Gold Pants :p on his HIStory concerts. It's not so unrealistic. Michael was home on stage, and he was a different person there. Off stage he was quite and meek. But on stage... wow...and yes, he did get caught up in the moments, have you seen in the Dangerous tour dvd with Jennifer when the music is heightening? his expression is orgasmic. I have a collection of Gold Pants pictures and some of them have an INSANE bulge and hard on showing...it's crazy...it makes me melt.

Brooke Shields said that she thought that Michael Jackson was "asexual". There is a video online called "Michael Jackson's Secret Childhood" a documentary produced by VH1 from 2005 where they discuss his unusual upbringing and a black woman in that video says that Brooke Shields was very aggressive with MJ (tried to French kiss him) but he did not respond to her advances. Another woman, Tatiana kissed MJ onstage but was fired by his manager. She went to find him but he would not see her when she went to his trailer at a filmshoot. In Rabbi Shmuley's book "The Michael Jackson Tapes" Michael expresses regret in not having responded to Brooke's advances toward him, he says that he "chickened out" when she tried to get him to make out or go all the way? with her. I wonder if MJ could have been asexual, that is he was turned off by the idea of sex but on the other hand he was attracted to women. He also expressed in a phone conversation (which was secretly taped by a woman named Glenda's husband during Glenda's phone calls with MJ) that he wanted to be "in a relationship, but he really had never had one." He expressed being attracted to Tatum O'Neill and Diana Ross, but he admits that he "never had sex." He was about 32 or 33 in the phone conversations. He also says that "his nose was wide open" (black slang for being smitten with someone) I think he's referring to Diana Ross, but he then admits "the relationship was in his own mind." He seems like he was at an adolescent level of development and seems to be either afraid of sex or asexual (not interested in the sex act.) Asexuals can be homosexual or heterosexual leaning but turned off by the idea of the sex act. They can have crushes on people but not want to follow up with a full sexual experience. Or maybe he was bisexual leaning and asexual? Of course we'll never know because he never admitted what his sexual preferences were, he only inferred that he was attracted to women (but it was pretty obvious that his relationships didn't go anywhere). Also, LMP said their marriage was consummated (but then he seemed to lose interest). Asexuals can get married but quickly lose interest in sex and feel uncomfortable having sex.

He was not a castrati, his autopsy says that his body was "producing sperm" which I'm sure that everyone has read in the AP report by now. I am now wondering if any of this sperm was harvested (and sold to the highest bidder?) and someday there will be some of MJ's offspring popping up. I shudder at the thought, but with the sad reality of the way things are going in the world I would not be surprised at the possibility of this occurring. I mean, if one of his gloves can fetch $60,000 can you imagine what his DNA would go for?? I read an article in the NYT about sperm harvesting from deceased men. Nothing about MJ would surprise me at this point. There are now rumors on the internet that there's an autopsy photo of him being shopped around, I shudder to think that a picture like that would pop up on TMZ, "News of the World" or some other tabloid. There are also rumors that he's still alive (just like Elvis).

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The best Michael Jackson autopsy report review seems to have been done by the LA Daily News. I did not realize this had been released. Is it safe to assume what is written actually is?

If anyone thinks that Michael was castrated, they must be blind!

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