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By Lee Silver | April 7th 2008 02:05 PM | 47 comments | Print | E-mail | Track Comments

Oprah Winfrey introduced the so-called "first pregnant man" to viewers of her April 3rd show this past week. Thomas Beatie appeared, six months pregnant, with his wife Nancy and his obstetrician, Dr. Kimberly James (by satellite hookup). You can see the complete show here. But many viewers thought the whole thing was blown out of proportion because Thomas was born with a perfectly normal uterus.

At the end of my first column on the issue, I said I would post another piece discussing the actual science of male pregnancy.

Is it really possible today? The answer, as I abstract from my 1997 book, Remaking Eden, is "almost certainly yes, but . . ."

With the birth of Louise Joy Brown in 1978, Steptoe and Edwards demonstrated the feasibility of fertilizing human eggs in a petri dish and placing embryos back into women where they can gestate to term. To date, several million children have been conceived through in vitro fertilization and born from women.

From the outset, scientists have mused aloud about the possibility of maintaining a pregnancy within the abdomen of a man. Tabloids routinely publish stories of success and in the popular 1995 film Junior, Arnold Schwarzenegger played a scientist who uses hormones and in vitro fertilization to make himself pregnant and ultimately "give birth." Movies and novels that mix real science with science fiction often lead to confusion in the public mind as to what is medically possible and what is not. Usually, scientists and physicians can be counted on to sort it all out.

With male pregnancy, though, something funny happens: Some say it is possible while others say it isn’t. To understand how different professionals can reach such opposite conclusions, we must delve into the thought processes of ‘the scientist’ and ‘the clinician,’ respectively.

The first question is whether a human fetus could develop to term in an environment other than a uterus. Surprisingly, we already know the answer, and it's yes. Every once in a while – in one pregnancy out of 10,000 – the fertilized egg doesn’t make it to the uterus, and ends up instead in the wide open space of the abdomen, also known as the peritoneal cavity. This happens because the ovary is not actually attached to the fallopian tube (or oviduct), as is commonly thought. Instead, after ovulation, the egg must make its way into the nearby opening at the end of the tube in order to begin its journey toward the uterus. Occasionally, when conception occurs very close to the opening in certain women, the newly fertilized egg may actually fall back out of the tube and into the abdomen.

Now you might think that once an egg has fallen into the abdomen, its chances of survival are nil. Surprisingly, at the appropriate time of development, an embryo can implant itself into almost any living tissue that it happens to alight upon. And the abdomen is filled with all sorts of tissues – from the intestines to the kidney, to the liver and the spleen. With successful implantation and sufficient placental formation, the embryo can develop normally into a fetus that can be carried through a full nine months of pregnancy. At the end, of course, it has nowhere to go unless it’s delivered by a modified Cesarian Section. The medical literature is filled with sporadic reports of healthy live-born babies that were carried by mothers pregnant in this unusual way. Here's an amazing picture of a late-state pregnant woman on her belly with a fetus facing up.

abdominal pregnancy
 

So let’s come back to the third ingredient required for pregnancy: a living womb within which the embryo can implant and attach a placenta.

If a woman’s abdomen can act as womb, a man’s abdomen could do just as well. “Clearly,” the scientist would conclude, “I’ve now proven that human male pregnancy is possible, and it’s possible today!”

“Wait just a minute,” the clinician would implore, “let’s look at all of the reported cases of abdominal pregnancy again, this time with a greater eye to the clinical details. And let’s start out with some of the general statements made by the reporting physicians”:


“Abdominal pregnancy is a rare but life-threatening condition.”


“Morbidity and mortality for both the fetus and the mother are considerable... Once the diagnosis is established, immediate surgical intervention is usually advisable.”


“Care of the patient afflicted with it may present formidable challenges.”


Abdominal pregnancy is considered a “life-threatening condition” because of the placental connection that the embryo must set up between itself and the body within which it lies.

In a normal pregnancy, it is set up with the specialized internal lining of the uterus known as the endometrium. Endometrial cells are recruited along with embryonic cells to form the placenta, but at the time of birth, the entire placenta detaches itself easily from the intact uterine wall to follow the baby through the birth canal. The ability to create a detachable endometrial lining that can be incorporated into the growing placenta is a unique property of the uterus.

Unfortuntately, when an embryo implants into an abdominal tissue, detachment is not so simple. The problem is that the development of the placenta can cause complete intermixing between embryonic and host tissues so that there is no clean boundary between the two. The more extensive the intermixing is, the more problematic it becomes to remove placental tissue. The physician has to cut between the wholely placental tissue, and the intermingled placental-‘maternal’ tissue. Large blood vessels must be severed, and as a consequence, difficult-to-control internal bleeding can take place.

Problems are not just confined to the stage at which a pregnancy is terminated. Long before the final event, a placenta can cause severe damage to an organ that it’s invaded with the possibility of spontaneous hemorrhaging that can quickly result in death.

So is male pregnancy possible? Probably yes.


Is male pregnancy safe? No, not at the present time.
But at some point in the future, it’s likely that reproductive biologists will figure out how to direct the growth of the placenta away from vulnerable abdominal organs and onto an easily detachable, but blood-rich, surface for growth. And then, pregnancy will be possible for men who are 100% men, although it's certainly not something that I would want to do.

Comments

i don't understand a man can get pregnant. but how can he deliever it

Hank's picture
Caesarian.

I was a still born birth, formed on the outside of the afterbirth,my mother nearly bled to death had to receive transfussions I weighed 2 1/2 pounds and did not take a breath for several minutes after being placed on a table
While care was taken to save my mother who had 2 small children at home. I remained in the hospital for several months before I went home, I was told I would not live past the age of 7. I am now 58, Is this the same type of birth
you were reffering to. Always wondered

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I think the discussion is patently absurd and stretches the definitions of the words being used.

A man CANNOT get pregnant, since by definition a man doesn't produce eggs so there is nothing to fertilize, nor any place for an embryo to implant and grow.

Any other discussion invariably involves twisting terms around so that, in effect, we are asking whether we can produce a sufficiently female "environment" into the male anatomy to replicate the pregnancy and birth process.  At this point words like "man" and "woman" lose all meaning since they would've been manipulated into circumstances that could not occur without intervention.

Read the top of the blog --- lots of women who have never produced eggs can get pregnant with donor eggs. So producing eggs is not a prerequisite for getting pregnant (with intervention, yes, but why does this matter?) Putting a female kidney into a man doesn't turn that man into a woman, neither would any other female tissue.

That is a stupid comparison. A human kidney is pretty much the same in any body. A man and a female have different sex cells, so this is not the same thing. No one said an egg would turn a male into a female, obviously that isn't true considering that installing an embryo in him won't change that he has a scrotum rather than a birth canal and he would not be able to GIVE birth but have a c-section. And what's-his-face is right. Men who "go through pregnancy" never actually GET pergnant or BECOME pregnant, they simply have a fetus in them that grows there. This does not fully describe pregnancy. It is an immature definition that can lead to misconceptions if not thoroughly examined and explained. Similarly, a woman who has an egg donated to her never actually conceives or BECOMES pregnant, but has a pregnancy (in her uterus, ussually) and gives birth. Because of the fact that women who are donated eggs to ussually experiece every other aspect of an actual pregnancy (contraction, uterus expanding, parasitic relationship between umbelical cord and fetus, etc.) it is simply called pregnancy because it is less complicated and less confusing. People use the same name distributing tactic in things such as "male abortion" and "male pregnancy". I have no problem with it being given this name for ease, but the scientific community should distinguish male "pregnancy" from an actual pregnancy so that people are not misinformed.

I think that the definitions are clear.

By "man", we mean a person who is currently a man.
By "pregnant" we mean carrying a developing fetus.

well i think that its really awesome.........say for a couple that for some reason the wife cant have children and the husband can actually carry their child.......

when a gay couple are together and want children they can go through with it them selvs insted of having someone do it for them........

i know that when it is safer i want to carry and give birth to my own child......so SIGN ME UP!!!!!

A normal man can not get pregnant, but I am sure the are hermaphroditic humans out there with testical features, but with a working uterus? Also, you may one day be able to transplant female reproductive organs into a transexual male to female... just speculation on my part.

I'm a man and I thik it would be pretty freaking cool to experience a pregnancy and give birth. But the sad new is that men can't give childbirth. I don't know but when my wife was pregnant with our first child I wish I could have experience everything that she had from her view. When it becomes safe for males to become pregnant I for one will want to give it a go. Nothing bad can come from it right? I don't see why other men wouldn't want to try or experience that. I mean come on your creating a life.

Even if a fetus was implanted in you, you do not have a placenta, or an umbelical cord, or ovaries, or breasts that swell like the most crazy painful thing ever, or, well... a female body. In male "pregnancy", the experience would never be even remotely the same.

I myself am a gay man, 25 years old, and have always felt something to be missing in my life to not have the ability to create a child. I would do anything possible to be able to carry my child and bring it into this world without the need for a woman's body. I'd work a thousand lifetimes to save up enough money for whatever surgical procedures that'd be needed to pull something like this off...I am desperate to give brith to my own child. I'll hope and pray until one day, I know my prayers will be answered.

good luck im a transitioning from male to female hopefully one day i could have a child of my own too

GOOD FOR YOU! I want you to know that you are in m heart. I fully support transexuals, seeing as it is a diverse community with both males and females wanting to switch in order to be more comfortable in their own bodies, and since such a diverse community would not probably lead to any of the sexes being replaced. I hope your journey fairs thee well!

As much as I can understand that you are jealous of the female body's ability to bare children (heck, I've been curious about what it feels like from the perspective of a penis and what impregnating a woman must feel like) but I am deeply disturbed with what you said about "not needing a female body". Does it not scare you that, well as a gay man I suppose you don't care, women could be discarded and rid of and all men would need is the ability to clone eggs that are stored. Does it not bother you that women already have to deal with being viewed as a trophy, sex toy, and incubator? Now with revolutionary scientific technology, all men wouldn't even need females, because their body is no longer valuable. Don't you see how that is objectification? I suppose it is just me being paranoid, but is this really all that farfetched? Think about it, for the bulk of history it has been very common for female children to be sold, killed, or discarded by their parents who better valued a son. In areas where this was not the case, women were handed down from father to husband along with other property (cattle, land, money, etc.) as if it were some kind of buy one get one free deal. This mentality that has yet to be eliminated from Earth (in Islamic Nations, China and their adoption agency, Russia, etc.) as well as technology making females no longer neccessary, I legitimately fear that no longer than a century or two from now there will be a holocaust against women.

i think the mentality that females are not required and are just to be used was prevailing before Islam, and Islamic teachings are to remove that mentality, and one of the main reason for the opposition of Islam was that it supported weak especially the females... Felt like clarifying here about the Islamic principles being a Muslim.

this is pretty narley dude.

The next question of course is SHOULD a man ever be pregnant... My wife is now, and there are some serious hormones being delivered to cope with the various changes the body goes through. Without those, who knows how well we'd fare.

Terrific point! Of course it would be POSSIBLE, but holy crap! A woman's body can barely handle a pregnany, it would be extremely unhealthy for a male, who's body is not built (as in mass build and all, not like "created" or like legos) to handle pregnancy. Evolution knew what she was doing when she made the male and female bodies function the way they do. The reason some women end up pregnant outside of the womb is because, as sad as it may be, she was not meant to carry on genes to the next generation. Of course technology and social programs that grant her parenthood wouldn't really get in the way of natural selection because eventually down the line genes will have to mutate or a homosexuals that are uninterested in procreating will start showing up. See, isn't it great how the planet just sort of regulates itself when it is neccessarry? Although, I'm not sure that I could see the same sort of "mutation" occuring in men, haha. That would take a long LONG time of evolution, in which likely there would be more hermathadites rather than 100% men who could get pregnant, and probably both external and internal fertilization, although I have heard arguemetns that all primates evelved FROM that. Although, I have also hear that half of humans are devolving while others are evolving, so who knows?
In any case, for the moment and probably for a very long time, pregnancy is just a ridiculous and unsafe idea for men.

Umm... to my part I think that you should be able to have a baby if your a man... Of course if you want to be a woman, go to the doctor, and get girls parts

If there is such man can get preganant, thou no difference between a man and a woman ....
Man is always a man.. they should not be a woman...

OMG I feel exactly like Rob does (Lol I'm gay too). I don't want to be a woman at all. I am very happy with being a man. I just feel very out of balance with the fac that women do 90% of all work in reproduction. I would love to able to be pregnant and feel the beauty of having a child depend on me to grow and mature, to feel all the ups and downs, be delicate and over the top for 9 months, to feel like more than just one life. And most importantly, to not have to watch someone close go through it for me. If nature says that men can't experience all of that then I think nature is cruel, uncaring and should go get f*cked. Gender is something that transcends the mind, not the body.

Omg.... Dude i feel the same way..... i so hope this is proven and possible within the next like 10 years.....

I never know that it is possible for men to get pregnant before. It creeps me out to even imagine. I think I'm agree with Melissa, God must know what He was doing. He won't create women if men was meant to conceive. I'm not against homosexuality too, because I'm gay myself, but doesn't it feels wrong to saw a man with a bulking abdomen? For Jeremy and whoever-you-are-the-anonymous-who-also-replied-to-Jeremy's-comment, I think it's better if you adopt a child and help reducing the orphanage quantity than risking your life, conceiving with no guarantee that you or the baby will survive past the male pregnancy. What's the point of feel the beauty of having a child depend on you to grow and mature, to feel all the ups and downs, be delicate and over the top for 9 months, to feel like more than just one life, if in the end you can't survive and died? Save your live, man.

there are lots of men with bulking abdomen. however, they're brought on by long-term beer consumption and usually don't disappear within 9 months.

Why is it that I only ever hear men say that they think nature is unfair and cruel? Some people seriously need to stop having sour grapes or something. Earth is beautiful and genrous. It is so sickening that you can be so resentful to the planet just becaus you are jealous of the functions of the female body. Either get a sex change or, if you really don't want that, then get over it already!

I Would Love to be able to do this, as soon as they manage a was to stop the body from hemorrhaging when they detach the placenta, sign me up.

They should get working on this right now! This is what pro-lifers should be pushing for!

If the woman doesn't want the baby, but the man does, HE CAN BIRTH IT!!! The ultimate choice!

i think that God knew what he was doing. I'm definintely NOT against homosexuality or anything else, but, I do believe that it is meant for women to carry the babies. I mean how oddd would it be to see a man walking down the street waddling holding his back?! If God intended for men to have babies, then He would have made men from women instead of women from men.

oh my god. I have a male friend, he's gay (so we cant be bf or gf). even though I never had or want children, my friend does badly tho he's jealous of me. I agree with jeremy tho mother nature is cruel, but i think diff reason it's because women HAVE to deliver, it's mens turn to suffer lol. I WILL NOT get a man until this is possible. a man who WANTS to deliver it FOR me. because I always told my mom I don't want children or men, (yah yah I'm soooooooo selfish, bla bla bla) but what I realy dont want is to suffer for 9 months then go thro all that pain. I'd hate it. I am so desperate and I'd do ANYTHING to have a kid without pregnancy or adoption. when (yes, I'm praying for when) this is possible and I'm a few yrs older I will find a straight man who l love and wants to get pregnant and I guess I'd have to donate an egg to him and he could get pregnant for me! and then after he screams from all that pain I missed out on, ( ha ha mother nature! your going down!) we'll go home and I will get a mans job and I will work and bring home dinner every night while he stays home and breastfeeds (yes, all men can breastfeed) and cleans the house! I mean, I love being a woman, but I can't wait til I'm older, this is possible and I can find a man who is straight and willing to do this! c'mon! my bilogical dad is tranny and is soooooooo desperate for pregnancy I'd bet he'd do this. mother nature can go suck it while my husbands giving birth and I sit in the nurses waiting room, thinking " nature isn't smart enough to win over everything! ha! " and I will get the life of my dreams!

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In all discussions so far involving the possiblity of a male human , becoming pregnant thru the use of his abdominal cavity seems to overlook the uniqueness of all human tissue on the human body known as the ever expansive / contractive "scotum"...and let's have a look as to why this placement might be a far better choice than the abdominal cavity. First is the issue of a blood supply being large enough to provide a suffient supply of nutrients and a portal for the removal of blood bourne waste that would be naturally occuring in the fetus.This feat is done on an going basis all the time in every males testicles all the time and completly unnoticed by him at all.The chief fear amongst most doctors is the complications involving the pregnancy being contained in the males abdomin as it is in the female.Let's go back to where life really begins...in a mans testicles.for approxiamatly 90 days a sperm is confined to, and feed by the testicles until they have achieved proper maturity for expellsion (birth) during sex.when said sperm is ejaculated it is a live-wiggling ,self determined, naturally guided aggressive being of temporary existence until it meets up with an egg.note how the mans sperm must have the wherewithall to inniate life. It is these same testicles that contain all the blueprints for making males and females alike...so a mans essences is he's the safekeeper of all human genitical possiblities from a genetic perspective...both xy(males) & xx(female) are indiginious in his make up as a male human being. Males...unlike females have (ONLY) the genitic ability to produce other females and no annate ability to produce males unless instructed genetically how to do so by a males sperm...males have the built in capacity to handle male and female live stock internally because all of humanity and all of its variantcies originate in the male. so any rejections of either sexes should not be a big issue as predicted. Secondly...the issue involving fluid-septics during birth would be greatly removed by the fetus taking root in the ever expanding scrotum area.if you really think about it the testicles are kind of treated by a males body as if it were a perminent tiny pregnancy of two identical twins that never (size wise) grow to term. Science has completely missed the boat on this one as to where to locate a fetal pregnancy...wherelse, but in the genital region, and on a male .This should never include the abdominal area, but instead some place much more warm and adjustable...his nut sac.

NERD,, GEEK!!!!! GET A LIFE FFS!!!! GOD :L:L:L:L

That just would not be right for a man to get pregnant. He would not be able to produce breast milk. He would not look good being pregnant that way women do. Their bodies were just not made for the to get pregnant. It would be interesting. But sounds way to risky for both the man and the unborn baby.

I think that a baby is a blessing, and carrying a that little person inside of you is one of the best experiences a person can go through......and yes i said person. If there comes a day when a man can carry a child, then why not .......i say go for it. The only voices that any of these people should listen to are those closely affected.......all the rest.........well they can go **** themselves.

i want to know how THomas Beatie do his own, LIke the scientific proved about the abdomeninal pregnancy, i think they can try it on an animal like chimpanze or gorrilla to see the result.

IM A LESBO!!!!!!!!!!

my nme is sophia and i love ackeil hector i likd his cok and sat on it and went up and down. :D:D:D:D it was lurshhh

I was born a male an I have a freezer full of brest milk mined,they work good.give me a shot at it.

i think they can it will just b painful

hello there well im a gay guy me an my partner are due to get married in july and we are desprate to have a child and i tell u somethink people can say yes u mite die but at the end off the day there is a bit of u in the baby . i jst wish i can have the opperunity to have a child thanx so if anyone has any suggestions or opinons or answers please reply back to me

I agree with the anonymous gay guy. i too am gay and the one thing i want is to have a baby, and if there was a way i could have that baby myself i would jump at the opportunity. are there any labs or organisations that study this or are actually trying this out? if so, let me know, becuase i would love to look into it. and yes, there is the risk of death but as that guy said, a part of you will live on in that baby. if anyones knows anything about where or how or even if its possible to try this out, i would appreciate it very much of you let me know.

Hfarmer's picture
Wow so this could be as simple as say... Sewing the embryo into a pouch of specially prepared skin with a good enough blood supply then taking the whole thing out at 9 month's?  
I am transgender, let me say to my gay breatheren, that there would be more to getting pregnant that just the above.  To make a human body really ready to give live birth requires a body which has been through some changes. The kind of changes a young woman goes through at puberty.  What I am trying to say is... it's possible that you would have to end up going through a process not so different from a SRS free gender transition.  I mean, even a small amount of hormones could encourage breast growth.  My own grew by a cup size in response to a relative being pregnant, so if I actually was pregnant.... I'd end up needing breast reduction.  


Not to mention that men don't have the hips for child baring, a spninal alignment that can handle that sort of weight and pressure as good as a woman's can, and overall not a good enough upper body to get the job done correctly. Their body structure is simply not cut out for pregnancy.

Hfarmer's picture
I can only imagine such systemic changes would have to be take place that they would be equal to a sex change when all is said and done.  Not to mention such men would end up expressing the universal feminine gender role in society.  Most gay men are pretty macho believe it or not... pregnancy could really mess with their minds. 

Might it be easier to make an artificial uterus/incubator outside of any person?

With all Due respect to all previously mentioned opinions...

Women and Men have been giving up on their normal, natural, (God given), rights for a long time that we need men to do things women are supposed to do and vice versa.

Besides, Scientists should think about what they SHOULD do more than What they COULD do... Don't you think ?

And if - God forbids - we've reached the point where we -Humans- can't propagate normally because of reasons of our doing ... then we deserve to extinct. Just make Sure that all your Food is organic and we won't get to this point :)

Hi there,
I am a trasngender and have been reading all these information about pregnancy where the babe grows in the abdomen. Since I don't have a womb nor eggs. Becoming aware of babes have grown in the abdomen area and read things about '' men's pregnancy '', I wonder if a transgender could go through that and have an artificial insemination? Is there a doctor or a clinician who could tell more information about that? Is there any studies on that also???
Please do let me know...
Thanks

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