Some recent discussions here have prompted me to comment on the ideas of happiness and eudaemonia, which are considerations of note in my work. In fact, I’m currently writing a chapter that dares to call itself “The final word on Eudaimonia,” but unless the discussion here turns out to be the most inspirational ever, I’m sure this title will change. I submit my notes sans conclusions complet, I hope you find them eudaemonic...
“Fundamental happiness depends more than anything else upon what may be called a friendly interest in persons and things.” - The Conquest of Happiness - 1930 Bertrand Russell.
Aristotle’s dusty old ideas about happiness, albeit tarnished by inconsequentialities via time, haven’t really changed much in the 2400 odd years since he wrote "the Nichomachean Ethics." There is currently a burgeoning interest in eudaimonia (or eudaemonia) and a bit of conversation about happiness, but let’s start at the beginning and return to this.
Aristotle doesn’t tell us how to be good he shows us what good would look like. Eudaimonea is his pleasure. A goal of happiness is for him achieved through a good life of obvious pleasures and earnest epistemology. This quiet contemplation leads to his success and fulfilment. Yet that same success and fulfilment comes from the activity and vitality of his life. Thus, the happiness he seeks, finds and enjoys is a product of itself. To seek it is to experience it. The journey is the purpose, not the result. It is the means and not the ends that make up Eudaimonea or, if you please, what makes one experience it.
Aristotle has for each of us a purpose. We have a goal, whether or not we know it. He will let us go through life like a sheep. If that is our wish then that is our place. But if one is made aware of the existence of the purpose, whatever it might or mightn’t be, then one claims responsibility for living up to that purpose. The price of failing is bound to be painful to the individual but the truly Eudaimonic will suffer greatest in the guilt of being counterproductive, which in this instance, by our definition, is quite counterintuitive.
Aristotles’ Utopia it seems, is a place where people are striving for perfection. Eudaimonea’s altruistic nature is just a byproduct of itself. For a subject to be eudaimonic it needs be in the best interest of the species. Not only in the biological sense; but “species”also in the philosophical sense that the subject being determined eudaimonic could be an idea, such as “Witches float.” Because Aristotle is the father of symbolic logic, the measurement of reason, and because it is utilitarian, eudaimonea includes the criterion of being logical.
Eudaimonea is objective and thus it is easier to examine yourself if you adopt a similar line of thought. To be not dispassionate, but cooly calculative in ones contemplations of the goal, of the purpose and of the meaning, of everything from within the natural desires one has. To be the objective Subjectivist. David Hume, (1739) “ We speak not strictly and philosophically when we talk of the combat of passion and of reason. Reason is, and ought to be, the slave of the passions. To serve and obey them.” This claim, like ancient eudaimonea creates the dichotomy of serving self and serving all at once, simultaneous. The only way to accomplish this in human society is to create a common goal among all people. (An idea with proven mixed results.) Thus are the limitations of eudaimonea as it was defined. (It was a swell idea in Greece around 360BC) but it’s limited and wishy washy. One mans eudaimonea is another’s ~U, or not eudaimonea.
Fast forward to 2007, there are approximately eleventy zillion dollars to be made selling happiness. Some of the books were worth reading. The Happiness Hypothesis is one by Psychologist Jonothan Haidt, whom I quote occasionally, another is “The How of Happiness.” by Dr. Sonja Lyubormirski. Other people just showed up on Oprah...
I propose, without going into great detail and with apologies to Arthur C. Clarke:
The 3 Laws of Eudaemonia:
For a consideration to be U it should be:
1.) Reasonable: Answerable to the rules of logic including consistency and simplicity.
2.) Promotive: promoting flourishment to all related physical and philosophical species.
3.) Not anti-eudaimonic. (neither anti-1 nor anti-2)
I think the first law is the most obvious and the third is the most important. Surely, no one is going to argue that the reasonable, logical and contemplative mind-set is going to prove a hindrance to U. For this and many other, extremely boring, reasons I’m certain 1 is safe and sound. That a consideration not be uneudaemonic is important for reasons beyond reason, for it is possible for considerations to be benign. That is to say, if one was contemplating something immeasurable or irrelevant, such as “Saltine Crackers or Triscuits?” in my case, there is no particular U as much as there is no particular ~U. If I were allergic to white flour, my consumption of said crackers could prove very ~U. Being U makes the continuation of any consideration easier than being not U, this rule alone makes law 3.
Now, law 2: Promotive. This is the most complicated, controversial and dangerous area of inquiry and it’s where one proposes to fill some very big shoes, indeed. This fact is not lost on me and I’m sure there will be some unverified ribbing here at the ol’ SB. But just for S&G’s, let’s go there anyway...
The relevant and necessary rules for the second law of U: Promotion...
1.) We are at the top of the brain tree. We are responsible for the effects of our decisions. We are, at least capable of, being in charge of what we know, Beings, Things and Ideas.
2.) Promotion implies a development of a purpose, as defined by group, via known relevance. We do what we need to continue doing what we need to. We don’t do that which hinders this for us or for anything else.
3.) Our happiness is secondary to the future opportunity for happiness.
Happiness is one of the common ties of humanity, however you define it. As such, one would be wise to contemplate the following caveat: Attaching the measurement of goal oriented societal input into our standard of flourishment opens everyone up to “falling for a dream.” It’s not your dream, at least, it wasn’t originally. It’s “their” dream. They had it, you fell for it. The problem lies in that you can’t expect the dream to work when the people steering the dream either want it to fail, can’t steer it correctly or don’t want to. We know this is true because, on many levels, we humans find ourselves in this predicament presently. Various stages of various failed dreams...
Another common tie of humanity is the phenomenon that "suffering develops commitment." If this is true it can and probably should lead to a “trickle up” effect. So that someday, should all seeking happiness be for naught, it should be easier to define a proper, effective goal. We will collectively ask, “How did we get here? How can we ensure it happens never again?"
Whoever answers us had better be correct.
Best Thoughts,
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Our discussion will be adequate if it has as much clearness as the subject-matter admits of, for precision is not to be sought for alike in all discussions, any more than in all the products of the crafts. ... We must be content, then, in speaking of such subjects and with such premisses to indicate the truth roughly and in outline, and in speaking about things which are only for the most part true and with premisses of the same kind to reach conclusions that are no better.
(Book I, chap 3; W.D. Ross translation.)
Brian can say if or to what extent he remains in the Aristotelian line of thought on this aspect of the subject.
Welcome to the SB. Very excited too pick your brain. I have enjoyed your articles so far...
Aristotle is a little pompous and anciently shortsighted. I'm just a deliberate dreamer. Therein lies the key difference. I don't know any better than to test him! :)
I do try to give things their due diligence, so please consider...
Chap 3 speaks to the limitations of practical logic and those have since been expanded.
This fact alone does not ensure that eudaemonia is possible, or measurable but it does demonstrate the limitation of Aristotle's definition. He simply couldn't imagine what we are capable of now. Further to this, neither do we. How do we know we are not creating a new language by having this very discussion?
Aristotle had other, rather uneudaemonic traits: all due to the times he lived. I'm not going to assign much meaning to those either.
I have quite a few more thoughts about the Ethics, things I like and things I don't. I'd be happy to answer any specifics as best I can.
Why does this strike me as a philosophical approach to social engineering?
Because you are a bright man. Yes, the question you’re asking yourself, “Is he really going there?” is answered “yes.” I call it Anti-Social Engineering, which, of course, can’t truly exist, so your assessment is correct. So to answer what I believe will be your follow up questions...
I’m presuming that it is possible for individuals to achieve an ideal set of paradigms, (correlations or what I’ve heard you term, “world-view.”) And here I’m asking, “what would that look like?”
As I stated in the article, I’m well aware of both the arrogance and the inherent dangers of such questions. Seeking the answers were the impetus for me to study philosophy. I expect to spend the rest of my life in this pursuit. I do not propose to fill in the blanks and this point, I’m attempting to define the blanks empirically, by purpose. To prioritise need. I’m attempting to create a standard of flourishment, at the level of individual accountability that serves the purposes of the all rather than the other way around.
I used to have a different rule in my proposed laws of eudaemonia, it was, “Desired.” And asked, “what do you want?” It died an early death. I chose to instead limit the scope of the idea of Eudaemonia by reducing the emphasis on individual happiness and expanding its Purpose, with a capital P.
Happiness, I believe, will be the byproduct of the eudaemonic life.
So let’s start our discussion here:
QUESTIONS FOR Gerhard:
1.) Do you think that an ideal world-view is definable? (Not “possible”, just “definable”.) If it isn’t, why? If it is, how?
I propose it is. Individuals have to opportunity to contribute to society. If their motives are steered, there is the opportunity to be steered well or not. So let’s set the standard on the basis of our rules. Let’s ensure that our rules are pliable enough to account for structural dynamism stringent enough to remain consistent with results. This is a very separate question from “does one do so willingly?” which, while being worthy of reducing to it’s needs and consequences, we shall now leave to a later day.
Problem Two:
The objective nature of evaluating eudaemonia seems that it attempts to extend the range of human cooperative behavior into a formalized definition that borders on an "altruistic-only" type of experience.
My proposed second law Promotive: is, in it’s entirety, concerned with altruism. But it is only the second law. Perhaps the desires of the individual need to be reintroduced to correct this appearance of strict altruism. Perhaps it is completely altruistic, for the first law is Reasonable: which, by definition is bound to prove U.
QUESTIONS FOR Gerhard:
2.) What’‘s your beef with altruism? (Particularly if we keep it sharply defined in goals but loosely vague in methodology.)
Problem the Third:
This type of strategy cannot work according to game theory since it would fix the rules of an
encounter such that it is prone to invasion by defectors.
Shmame Shmeory! Doesn’t the Nash equilibrium level the field anyway? I’m prepared to accept that there are “defectors” that would have ~U as their goal. And there would be specific considerations that the measurement of eudaimonia would be left alone in instances of purposeful disco-operation. <-that’s hilarious :) For instance, in war: or football, at any instances of necessary competition, the best interests of the all may or may not be taken into account.
However, even that aside, what is the point? What's the value assessment that makes it worth pursuing as an individual? What's the incentive to adopt (especially considering that your individual happiness is not necessarily judged sufficient)?
This is my main problem. Your contention, in my opinion, shouldn’t exist. That is to say, I believe, that Eudaemonia should already be instilled. We should all already be forward thinking logicians, if only for the sake of our children.
The point is to ensure that we continue to endeavour to persevere. (And this, at least, in this instance, is just a personal preference of mine...)
Finally, lets’ not forget that these are the things I propose eudaemonia strive to be, not necessarily ‘be’. We are, after, attempting to define a means, not an ends. (Please, lets leave out ‘choice’ and ‘will,’ we don’t have the luxury ;)
I look forward to your thoughts.
1.) Do you think that an ideal world-view is definable? (Not “possible”, just “definable”.) If it isn’t, why? If it is, how?
That's a really tough question, because the first thing I'm inclined to ask is "ideal" from whose perspective? I have serious doubts that you'd find something that would have universal appeal, so the question is fundamentally unanswered and maybe unanswerable.
Now, let me use an exmple from biology that hopefully can illustrate my problem; Ants.
Ants have evolved to such an extreme division of labor that the cooperation within their colonies makes sense because the "ideal" behavior is ultimately defined as being in support of their queen (which retains the only reproductive capability). In a sense, the idea of an idealized worldview that describes how human society should function sounds like the same sort of thing I could envision ants discussing.
It gives me the strange feeling of humans domesticating themselves.
2.) What’‘s your beef with altruism? (Particularly if we keep it sharply defined in goals but loosely vague in methodology.)
I don't have any particular problem with it, except when it's defined for a social good that isn't germaine to me, I have to question who is best positioned to take advantage. This is precisely why my focus has been on self-interested behavior that may be selfish or altruistic depending on need. However, an "altruistic-only" strategy eliminates that choice.
The reason why game theory says that an altruistic-only strategy can be invaded by selfishness, is because the altruistic fails to see the deception. This is precisely what happens with ant colonies where some arthropods (Atemeles pubicollis) give off a false brood identification odor that makes the ants feel like they are part of the brood they're protecting and at the same moment this insect is devouring ant larva.
In particular, I don't believe that altruism in ants is the same as that in humans, because it seems that the evolutionary behavior seems "coerced" in the sense that without any other reproductive option, the species is effectively committed regardless of what happens. Any concept of "free will" in this context is truly meaningless.
Doesn’t the Nash equilibrium level the field anyway?
No, the Nash equilibrium simply indicates a choice that would be made even if knowledge of the other choices were available.
We should all already be forward thinking logicians, if only for the sake of our children
But this introduces a new element that you haven't discussed; trust. While I agree that it has tremendous cohesive power in a social group, what is the basis by which I should trust that any idealized objective actually has my best interests at heart? If I do participate in granting that trust, how does that make me different from the ants, or will I potentially be sacrificing my offspring and simply not care or notice?
“Always with you that which can’t be done.”:)
Gerhard, in the interest of clarity and brevity in what is likely to be a very long discussion, let us adopt a curtness beyond scientific compare:
Who’s idea of ideal?
Not to put too fine a point on it, mine. (Now that’s curt!) Perhaps rather, ours. Defined here, now, with the utmost care.
Ideal from who’s perspective?
From the individual deciding.
(Presupposed next question:)
What do “we” want that individual basing decisions on?
The eudaemonic device. (Whatever it turns out to be...)
You have serious doubts as to the possibility or existence of an ideal so general as to have universal appeal. You at least will give that it ‘may be unanswerable.’
So dare to answer it. We’re just speculating on a hypothesis... Pretend you have to answer. What will you say?
Also, lets’ answer only for the sets of (beings) and (things) lets not, at this point answer for everything. That can wait...
Your ant metaphor is not lost on me and I love the phrase “humans domesticating themselves.” (Let’s make Tshirts!) However, an ants purpose is it’s “everything.” and we are stopping short of that. We also are not ants, I don’t imagine we would have ant like problems despite any world view we adopt, short of an all encompassing ant-like philosophy.
I now understand your use of game theory in this discussion and your argument for my current strictly altruistic definitions being ill advised. Thank you for that contribution!
I appreciate the naked chickens, keep them coming!
Pretend you have to answer. What will you say?
Why does this sound like you're asking me to help create a new religion? After all, the role of most religions is to describe the "ideal" state to which humans should strive (and we see how well that's worked).
What do we value? What do we do with those that don't value the same things? Perhaps we want to strive to be the best people that we can be in terms of knowledge acquisition and utilizing whatever talents we possess to the fullest. How do you respond to the individual that thinks that he only wants to live as "God intended"?
However let me state that your second point about promotion has got a major problem as long as we are structured around any form of government. I'm assuming that to reach this state of consensus regarding human objectives, you also accept the idea of anarchy (not in the sense of chaos, but the absence of government)?
I think that you feel this way because I'm not being clear enough. I may not be able to, as I literally get lost myself, often.
I think there will be three or four volleys until we get to the crust of even what I'm trying to explain. As I stated in the orginal piece, the task of even wrapping ones head around ancient eudaemonia is probably sisyphean enough. To attempt a modern re-interpretation, perhaps is madness. But religion? No. Here's why.
When you ask, "What do we value?"
I answer with the laws: 1. Reason. 2. Promotion and perhaps others, let's call them TBD
because that's all I have. I don't think the idea of value enters into the determination of the device itself, just into the utility of the device. If you create the device to be conducive to the goals of reasonable promotion and promoting reason, (so far) then, by our definition, if we so choose, we will have redefined eudaemonia. Which is my current goal.
"Values" are yours to decifer if there is an overall foundatiyon that doesn't interfere with your decisions.
So, obviously one subject to my laws of U can not have values that don't obey the rules, unless that doesn't matter... Say, if eudaimonea was less of a "law" or "rule" or "commandment" and more of a "consideration" or "zeitgeist." Which I think it may have to be.
I will have to continue this later, sorry...








This type of strategy cannot work according to game theory since it would fix the rules of an encounter such that it is prone to invasion by defectors.
However, even that aside, what is the point? What's the value assessment that makes it worth pursuing as an individual? What's the incentive to adopt (especially considering that your individual happiness is not necessarily judged sufficient)?